Thank you fish4uinmd I just looked a little closer at this coin and saw a die clash spike from the lower lip and another one at the neck just below the jaw, could be an interesting vam.
I wonder if he is afflicted with that annoying trait called photographic memory? I wish that I could be so annoyed ha!!
I think I've determined the vam # for this coin, 1882cc vam 3D. Vamworld has the rarity for this as R-7 pretty darned scarce. Any help on this will be much appreciated. TIA