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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3078380, member: 85693"]<font size="4">Here is a countermark from Byzantium (pre-Byzantine era). I posted this a while back. I bid on it because I found a similar example sold on Forvm, with this description:</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">"The Π in the countermark is a local archaic form of the letter B used at Byzantium. David Sear notes, "at this time [when the counter mark was applied after c. 280 B.C.], the Byzantines were subject to continual threats by Gaulish invaders, who were bought off by the payment of huge annual tributes. The impoverished city had to resort to countermarking foreign coins in place of a proper currency."</font></p><p><font size="4">GS58875. Silver drachm, Price 1499, c/m: SGCV 1585 (Byzantium, after c. 280 B.C.)..."</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">Mine is on a drachm of Philip III Arrhidaios (I think). The Forvm listing photo looked a lot like this one, but provided no description - I am guessing on "ship's prow." Any other info or examples would be greatly appreciated.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantium-cm-dec-2017-2-jpg.719937/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Byzantium - Countermark </b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>on Macedonian Kingdom</b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Philip III Arrhidaios drachm</b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Kolophon? (c. 323-319 B.C.)</b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Countermark: after 280 B.C.</b></font></p><p><font size="4">Head of Herakles right, wearing lion-skin. cm: ΠU over ship's prow (?) / FILIPPOU Zeus seated left, monogram left. SCGV 1585 (countermark) (4.00 grams / 17 mm)</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">I used to be a pretty enthusiastic collector of modern countermarks/counterstamps and chopmarks. But like I said, I never had an ancient before. Below is a sample from this modern collection (yeah, you can make fun of that Azores crowned GP on a US half dollar, but I've looked at a lot of these and I really do have <i>some</i> faith it is not a fake <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie67" alt=":nailbiting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />):</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4"><b><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantium-cm-dec-2017-8-jpg.719938/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </b></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3078380, member: 85693"][SIZE=4]Here is a countermark from Byzantium (pre-Byzantine era). I posted this a while back. I bid on it because I found a similar example sold on Forvm, with this description: "The Π in the countermark is a local archaic form of the letter B used at Byzantium. David Sear notes, "at this time [when the counter mark was applied after c. 280 B.C.], the Byzantines were subject to continual threats by Gaulish invaders, who were bought off by the payment of huge annual tributes. The impoverished city had to resort to countermarking foreign coins in place of a proper currency." GS58875. Silver drachm, Price 1499, c/m: SGCV 1585 (Byzantium, after c. 280 B.C.)..." Mine is on a drachm of Philip III Arrhidaios (I think). The Forvm listing photo looked a lot like this one, but provided no description - I am guessing on "ship's prow." Any other info or examples would be greatly appreciated. [B][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantium-cm-dec-2017-2-jpg.719937/[/IMG] Byzantium - Countermark on Macedonian Kingdom Philip III Arrhidaios drachm Kolophon? (c. 323-319 B.C.) Countermark: after 280 B.C.[/B] Head of Herakles right, wearing lion-skin. cm: ΠU over ship's prow (?) / FILIPPOU Zeus seated left, monogram left. SCGV 1585 (countermark) (4.00 grams / 17 mm) I used to be a pretty enthusiastic collector of modern countermarks/counterstamps and chopmarks. But like I said, I never had an ancient before. Below is a sample from this modern collection (yeah, you can make fun of that Azores crowned GP on a US half dollar, but I've looked at a lot of these and I really do have [I]some[/I] faith it is not a fake :nailbiting:): [B][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantium-cm-dec-2017-8-jpg.719938/[/IMG] [/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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