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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1522047, member: 26030"]This is an interesting discussion and I don't mind critics!! It helps pass the time and sometimes you (or I) might even learn something from the various arguments. </p><p><br /></p><p>There is one other interesting signature on this coin. I circled two areas of more intense toning on the obverse and reverse. Note that the areas marked "1" and "2" are exactly opposite one another ... on the exact opposite (flip) side of the coin (since the reverse of US coins are flipped from the obverse). It seems very plausible that the reason those two exact areas had more heavy toning was there must have been more "contact pressure" between the 2x2 envelope and the coin in those areas ... perhaps from just the way it was mushed into a box of coins (either horizontally or vertically) and it sat that way for 3, 4, or 5 years. So the more vivid and deeper colors in just those two exact spots developed as the sulfur in the paper reacted more strongly due to the increased contact and pressure in that region. </p><p><br /></p><p>It still doesn't really answer the question of whether the person that owned this coin when it toned did this intentionally or by accident, but it seems pretty clear that the toning occurred inside a 2x2 envelope. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's fun when coin toning investigation turns us all into ameteur Sherlock Holmes's! And I would LOVE to have heard the discussion amongst the 3 professional PCGS graders that looked at and blessed this coin as NT (market acceptable). It makes me wish PCGS grading notes were available, as I for one would love reading them.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://mindstar.com/cointalk_photos/TVBlack_2006_ASEcopy.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1522047, member: 26030"]This is an interesting discussion and I don't mind critics!! It helps pass the time and sometimes you (or I) might even learn something from the various arguments. There is one other interesting signature on this coin. I circled two areas of more intense toning on the obverse and reverse. Note that the areas marked "1" and "2" are exactly opposite one another ... on the exact opposite (flip) side of the coin (since the reverse of US coins are flipped from the obverse). It seems very plausible that the reason those two exact areas had more heavy toning was there must have been more "contact pressure" between the 2x2 envelope and the coin in those areas ... perhaps from just the way it was mushed into a box of coins (either horizontally or vertically) and it sat that way for 3, 4, or 5 years. So the more vivid and deeper colors in just those two exact spots developed as the sulfur in the paper reacted more strongly due to the increased contact and pressure in that region. It still doesn't really answer the question of whether the person that owned this coin when it toned did this intentionally or by accident, but it seems pretty clear that the toning occurred inside a 2x2 envelope. It's fun when coin toning investigation turns us all into ameteur Sherlock Holmes's! And I would LOVE to have heard the discussion amongst the 3 professional PCGS graders that looked at and blessed this coin as NT (market acceptable). It makes me wish PCGS grading notes were available, as I for one would love reading them. [IMG]https://mindstar.com/cointalk_photos/TVBlack_2006_ASEcopy.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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