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<p>[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 3557745, member: 51347"]Agreed. I have learned such "labels" are only reference points assigned. Due to usage, then it becomes "gospel".</p><p><br /></p><p>I am NOT a scholar, nor an expert. Rather, I enjoy ancient histories as a <i>hobby (ancient coins are placemarkers of the histories I read.)</i> My personal readings on Hannibal AFTER the battle of Zama (becoming Chief Magistrate of Carthage), showed that he did many things to keep Carthage from folding under the enormous weight of indemnities imposed by Rome. Please note that Spain was controlled by Hannibal's family, whom developed the silver mines. Rome took all of these territories and mines, depriving Carthage of food and precious metals.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whether they are "15-Shekels", or another denomination, only illustrates that this is a LARGE coin (my heaviest STAMPED / STRUCK coin in my collection.)</p><p><br /></p><p>An everyday example for me as I travel a lot, and am astounded that our language "creates" new words naming a peoples' country name (ie, Wales for Cymru; China for Zhongguo; Finland for Suomi, etc.) This same process is arbitrarily applied naming coins, and those names STICK to them: Stater for a Didrachm, etc. WHY do we do this?</p><p><br /></p><p>My "BIG AE HANNIBAL as Chief Magistrate of Carthage FUNDING COIN from after the Battle of Zama":</p><p><br /></p><p>(maybe I call it a "<b>ZAMA</b>")</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Carthage 1-Zama:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>I posted this as my largest coin of 2017. However, [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] has the most gorgeous version of the <b>Carthage 1-Zama</b>!</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2017-12-23_20-5-53-png.717410/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2017-12-23_20-6-40-png.717411/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/carthage-15-shekel-102-6g-7-5mm-thick-in-hand-3-jpg.717412/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/carthage-ae-15-shekel-102-6g-on-scale-jpg.717413/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Seller write-up:</b></p><p>Carthage.</p><p>Circa 201-175 BC.</p><p>Æ 15 Shekels</p><p><b>45 mm. dia. 7.5 mm. thick. 102+ gm. </b></p><p>Obv: Wreathed head of Tanit left</p><p>Rev: Horse standing right; uraeus above.</p><p>Ref: MAA 104 ; SNG Copenhagen 400.</p><p>Comment: Original green patina.</p><p>Note: The largest Carthaginian coin and likely one of the largest coins <b>struck</b> in antiquity.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>This extraordinary large bronze coin was likely issued under the administration of Hannibal, who, following defeat at the battle of Zama, was appointed as chief magistrate of Carthage. Hannibal worked effectively to restore the finances of Carthage. The annual payment of 10,000 talents to Rome as reparations for the war, and the loss of control over the silver mines in Spain made the issuing of a silver coinage impossible. The immense thickness of this coin also precluded any significant relief of the die's impression.</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 3557745, member: 51347"]Agreed. I have learned such "labels" are only reference points assigned. Due to usage, then it becomes "gospel". I am NOT a scholar, nor an expert. Rather, I enjoy ancient histories as a [I]hobby (ancient coins are placemarkers of the histories I read.)[/I] My personal readings on Hannibal AFTER the battle of Zama (becoming Chief Magistrate of Carthage), showed that he did many things to keep Carthage from folding under the enormous weight of indemnities imposed by Rome. Please note that Spain was controlled by Hannibal's family, whom developed the silver mines. Rome took all of these territories and mines, depriving Carthage of food and precious metals. Whether they are "15-Shekels", or another denomination, only illustrates that this is a LARGE coin (my heaviest STAMPED / STRUCK coin in my collection.) An everyday example for me as I travel a lot, and am astounded that our language "creates" new words naming a peoples' country name (ie, Wales for Cymru; China for Zhongguo; Finland for Suomi, etc.) This same process is arbitrarily applied naming coins, and those names STICK to them: Stater for a Didrachm, etc. WHY do we do this? My "BIG AE HANNIBAL as Chief Magistrate of Carthage FUNDING COIN from after the Battle of Zama": (maybe I call it a "[B]ZAMA[/B]") [B]Carthage 1-Zama:[/B] I posted this as my largest coin of 2017. However, [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] has the most gorgeous version of the [B]Carthage 1-Zama[/B]! [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2017-12-23_20-5-53-png.717410/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2017-12-23_20-6-40-png.717411/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/carthage-15-shekel-102-6g-7-5mm-thick-in-hand-3-jpg.717412/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/carthage-ae-15-shekel-102-6g-on-scale-jpg.717413/[/IMG] [B]Seller write-up:[/B] Carthage. Circa 201-175 BC. Æ 15 Shekels [B]45 mm. dia. 7.5 mm. thick. 102+ gm. [/B] Obv: Wreathed head of Tanit left Rev: Horse standing right; uraeus above. Ref: MAA 104 ; SNG Copenhagen 400. Comment: Original green patina. Note: The largest Carthaginian coin and likely one of the largest coins [B]struck[/B] in antiquity. [I]This extraordinary large bronze coin was likely issued under the administration of Hannibal, who, following defeat at the battle of Zama, was appointed as chief magistrate of Carthage. Hannibal worked effectively to restore the finances of Carthage. The annual payment of 10,000 talents to Rome as reparations for the war, and the loss of control over the silver mines in Spain made the issuing of a silver coinage impossible. The immense thickness of this coin also precluded any significant relief of the die's impression.[/I][/QUOTE]
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