Post some MS65 BROWN COPPER!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by The Penny Lady®, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    I saw some civil war tokens this weekend and I was wondering if 24 dollars was a good price?
    they appeared not to be cleaned and in average to better circulated condition.
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  3. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    1931- Thad's hippy sister!

    Don't know if this qualifies, but I figure it is close. I posted this before in "Post Some Lincolns". It keeps changing colors:D:rolling::thumb: I would send to NGC if I though it would grade.

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    I gotta ask Boss, you say it keeps changing colors. OK, coins tone. But did you put that coin thru your conservation technique of oil, acetone etc. ? And how long has it taken for those changes to occur ?
  5. dracula370

    dracula370 Mmmmmmm......Bacon

    Just got this Woody off TT tonight....MS64RB

  6. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Gorgeous! I love the red.. I'm not as much a dark brown penny guy. Had an s vdb that was just too dark for my liking. Good going!
  7. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    Here's another new brown coin I just picked up....
  8. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    Another beautiful IHC PL :thumb:
  9. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Charmy- was reviewing this thread and zoomed in on this coin. I don't know how one would consider it not having wear on the feathers. Also there are marks that looks like scratch marks on the 5th feather and on the hair curl? Am I wrong. I am imagining that you would say it's a weak strike, but how can you differentiate between wear with nice toning and weak strike? Sorry if this sounds like a criticism. I love your coins, but just trying to learn.
  10. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    Boss, no worries at all with questions or criticisms. Yes, the feathertips are just a weak strike, which is pretty common for several dates in the Indian cent series. As a matter of fact, weak feathertips is a diagnostic for the 1909-S Indian cent - if the first 3 feathertips on a 1909-S Indian cent are not weak, then most likely it is a counterfeit.

    However, in this case, the photos don't show as much detail as there actually is on this coin - some of the shading in the darker brown areas in the photo gets in the way of seeing all the detail, including the diamonds. And the whitish areas on the 5th feathertip and hair curl, which I think is what you're referring to, are not scratches, but I don't have the coin in hand right now (I'm away for the weekend) and I don't remember them being so pronounced on the actual coin, so I need to look at that more closely and get back to you as to what that is.

    I know this particular photo makes this coin look a little blotchy and the details look smooth rather than crisp. But, honestly, overall, in hand this coin is really beautiful, with full luster and gorgeous hints of lustrous red around the peripheral. Even that darker toning on the reverse is also lustrous and blends in much nicer than this photo shows.

    Thanks for your questions, I welcome them and the opportunity to clarify whatever I can!
  11. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Gotcha Charmy. That makes sense, and I am sure in hand it's beautiful in hand.
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I would have never guessed that coin was MS either Boss, don't feel bad. I just don't know squat about Indians.

    Thanks for the lesson Charmy.
  13. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    RB's are my favorit.

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  15. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    photography skills do not do this blue bombshell justice... guess ya'll will need to use your imagination......

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  16. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    was going through my boxes of 1909 VDB cents this week and didn't realize I had so many graded MS65BN... I guess it's becoming one of my favorite grades

  17. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    Can anyone tell me the technical side of how the OP's camera guy got those photos so nice without any slab distortion?

    How well does this Slab renew stuff work anyhow - Guess I'll find out soon enough :)

    What is Eagle Eye Photo Seal I see on the NGC holders? I understand the circular cut and paste onto a black background....

    Questions Questions Questions...

    I just upgraded my photo set up by dedicating a tethered Canon 40D & macro Lens with Daylight CFLs, tent, light board. Hope to have the morphing of 2 tripods for an ultimate copy stand done by this weekend.

    Those OP's photos are amazing if shot through the plastic holder. I have a bunch of slabbed coins I want to get rid of first.

    Thank you in advance for any advice anyone can offer on high end coin slab photography.
  18. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1905 MS64BN IHC...


    And a 1900 English 1/2P in MS65RB for comparison...

  19. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    Wow, first of all this thread was started almost a year ago, but it's sure nice to see the pretty coins again! And Mike, I have several customer (and me) who will definitely agree with you - there are some beautiful coins in MS65 BN!

    To answer some of your questions. my photographer Todd at does an amazing job of capturing the color and toning of coins through the slabs, and it's partly due to the lighting, but mostly due to his skills. I do know there are ways to remove the scratches from holders and as a temporary fix in order to take more clear photos, you can apply a little bit of oil to the slab which helps temporarily remove the appearance of the scratch when photographing.

    Eagle Eye Photo Seal was created by Rick Snow (and Brian Wagner) years ago and is for Flying Eagle and Indian Cents only. Rick is the guy who writes all the books on Indian cents, and his seal is sort of a pre-curser to what CAC does now. It means that he believes that coin is at least properly graded if not better for the assigned grade, and he only does this to NGC and PCGS graded coins. He also has a buy-back on Photo Sealed coins. He applies the very hard to remove eagle sticker and also takes a photograph of the front of the slab, signs and laminates it, and you keep it with the coin. This does add a slight premium to coins - it just means that they are more typically quality coins. It doesn't mean that every Flying Eagle or Indian cent that is NOT Photo Sealed isn't quality, because not everyone is sent to him (it costs $15 to do this by the way).

    Any way, hope this helps. And here are few of my more recent MS65 brown coins.....

    Rare 1897 "1" in the Neck variety....


    A gorgeous 1886 Indian cent....


    A better date and tough to find well struck 1924-D Lincoln Cent....


    A very pretty Pidcock Conder token.....


    A very detailed design of a neat Civil War Token....

  20. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I glad see this one wake up:thumb:
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