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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4846047, member: 110504"]Sulla80, your added context and nuance are very welcome counterweights to my nit-picking. ...I wonder whether we could make one last hard distinction between Science, including Mathematics, and Empirical Science in its modern, methodologically fully realized form (more from Bacon on)? Of course it's impossible to minimize the accomplishments of the Greek mathematicians (and proto-empirical-scientists), any more than of the Islamic proponents, especially from the Abbasid Caliphate onwards (who were that instrumental in reintroducing Europeans to Aristotle, round about the 13th c. ACE).</p><p>But in our present milieu, the need to insist on methodological norms for the physical sciences is pretty dire. It's not that people of your calibre can't appreciate the nuances, so much as that that many other people lack the same capacity and inclination. ...It's still early here, and this has gone on too long....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4846047, member: 110504"]Sulla80, your added context and nuance are very welcome counterweights to my nit-picking. ...I wonder whether we could make one last hard distinction between Science, including Mathematics, and Empirical Science in its modern, methodologically fully realized form (more from Bacon on)? Of course it's impossible to minimize the accomplishments of the Greek mathematicians (and proto-empirical-scientists), any more than of the Islamic proponents, especially from the Abbasid Caliphate onwards (who were that instrumental in reintroducing Europeans to Aristotle, round about the 13th c. ACE). But in our present milieu, the need to insist on methodological norms for the physical sciences is pretty dire. It's not that people of your calibre can't appreciate the nuances, so much as that that many other people lack the same capacity and inclination. ...It's still early here, and this has gone on too long....[/QUOTE]
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