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Message:: [QUOTE="cremebrule, post: 1751287, member: 35227"]If by "Mother Nature", you mean the elements of the periodic table (especially sulfur), then I would agree with you. If by "Mother Nature", you mean toning without human intervention, then I would have to disagree. Bahabully, I've seen a lot of the coins that you've posted over the past year or so, and I will admit that while a lot of them look "AT", a few of them look acceptable and actually eye-appealing. A lot of the lincoln proofs you've posted here and on your ebay page look MA ; I believe you've posted a few that you've submitted and have graded cleanly at one of the major TPGs. If you can recreate this type of toning to the point where the TPGs deem the coin acceptable, then by all means do so. After all, if the toning is subtle enough to fool the TPGs (and presumably the consumer as well), and if the toning looks pleasing to the general eye, then who am I judge? But until then, to call your coins NT (or "just mother nature & and the coin), is simply deceiving and untrue. That all being said, I have no problem with Baha posting all these coins (AT or NT) to this thread. After all, it is the "Post a Toned Coin" thread! It would be nice though if you consolidated all those pictures you just posted into a single post...[/QUOTE]