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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lincoln Cents, Sep 9, 2011.

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What color toning do you like best?

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  1. Scottie B.

    Scottie B. New Member

    DSC_0463.JPG DSC_0460.JPG not sure if this is authentic or not but i bought it as so.
     
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  6. robec

    robec Junior Member

    I can see Ron's being a 66+. Mine was in an Anacs MS66 slab before I cracked it out and sent it to PCGS. PCGS gave it the same MS66 grade, weak strike, deteriorated die and all.
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  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Really Chris? My spidy senses are tingling on all 3. And welcome Scottie!
     
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  9. cpm9ball

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    On the Morgan? Yes, really! I used to own several with that color progression in (old) ANACS, NGC & PCGS slabs.

    Chris
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Bob the 1950 D were well known for soft or weak strikes.
    Taking that into consideration that's not what my judgment was on either coin. I can pretty much guarantee that it wouldn't grade that at NGC.
    It's funny as I'm close with about 20 dealers from working shows here.
    90% believe that PCGS graded coins are the most accurate and bring the top money. They may be correct on one account ,people are willing to pay more.
    From some of the post here and from seeing some of their work I disagree totally ! The toned ms 67- 1964 Kennedy half that now being discussed in another thread one example . But I've seen a lot more!
    Again I buy the coin.....personally I buy a 64 FS with eye appeal way before pulling the trigger on a higher graded coin that was flat,or had battle scars.
    Again that's my opinion . I will also say that some of the early grading companies did add eye appear as well graded both sides of the coin. That said I personally believe that that's how it should be. As yes grading is subjective and when paying for someone to grade or appraisal you should be able to get a reason for their reasons for the value or grade placed.
     
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  11. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Hi Scottie, welcome to the Boards!!! :) It's a Great place to be.

    Unfortunately I'm in the same boat as Cascade, all three coins look AT (artificially toned) to me. Don't sweat it, EVERY coin collector makes a few less than optimal purchases when they are getting started. It's so common it's even got a name, "paying your tuition". I've certainly bought my fair share of learning experiences.
     
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  13. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

     
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  15. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    I feel the same way....i love the color on that one! A beauty for sure!
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    To my eye, that coin is an MS67. While it doesn't surprise me that PCGS gave it MS66+, it would be an MS67 in NGC plastic which is what most of my Jefferson Nickels reside in. NGC tends to take a more holistic approach to grading whereas PCGS uses grade limiters. They looked at that one distraction and came to the conclusion that it should prevent the MS67 grade. In the process, they ignored the fact that the strike, luster, and eye appeal of this coin are far above average for the 1950-D nickel and are probably better than most in MS67 plastic.

    The 1950-D his been my white whale. I have had a dozen or so MS67's and each and every one of them has disappointed me in one way or another. Even my current example has lost its luster (literally). When I purchased it, I thought my search was over and that I finally found my 1950-D. But after owning for several months, the satin luster just wore on me. So much that I resigned myself to reopen my search.

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    FWIW, I prefer your PCGS MS66+ to my NGC MS67 5FS. That's how nice that coin is and I completely agree with that dealer.
     
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  17. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    I really like the colors on this coin, but I suspect this one of Being AT, what do you think? 20170206_215259_Richtone(HDR)-01.jpeg 20170206_215238_Richtone(HDR)-01.jpeg
     
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  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    A little dark, but not common coin. The bottom photo is more as viewed. Top was just a grabbed one. tonedpcgs.jpg

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  19. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    I've seen colors on the reverse like that on coins that have this sort of reverse, so if the reverse was a "stand alone" I'd accept it. However, whenever I see that sort of blue with that sort of green on any coin OTHER than a Morgan dollar I generally suspect it of being AT. As long as you didn't pay a significant premium for the toning I think it's a fun piece. I've certainly bought coins that I know are AT as long as the premium was minimal.
     
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  20. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Here's an example of an AT Washington that I bought where the premium was minimal (the cost of the coin was $10), so it was a WTF purchase.

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  21. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    Thanks... and, No I didn't pay too much ... it came from eBay and was only 12 bucks.
     
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