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Message:: [QUOTE="imrich, post: 3419950, member: 22331"]If you'd read the initially published illustrated standards, you'd find a simple summation of the grading system that generally had been used for grading coins since they were produced. There were generally little subjectivity required to establish a grade between buyer and seller. It's worked for 70 years of my life between relatively Numismatically uneducated individuals and shouldn't be a jury challenge. I've no interest in initiating an action for change, but would contribute evidence to support consistent objective grading standards. I've decided to sell scarce date/condition high value coins being returned with believed improper grading, that by themselves would support an action similar to that of PCI, at melt value to a prominent dealer who I'm certain will get a proper grade, resell, so I can determine real damages for an appreciable action. Numismatic consumers are just frustrated with TPG graded resubmitted coins being returned without a grade, diminished to a bullion piece by a details verdict.It's believed that a future action will show that TPG as SEGS have had their products resubmitted to realize better grades than critics state, and a valued system that states both grade and perceived deficiency. I primarily now buy high value coins that are stated premium for the grade, so that a comparable standard can be supplied in a believed imminent lawsuit. JMHO[/QUOTE]