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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 3418972, member: 22331"]I agree with everything you've said, and this condition with grading standards has continued because most buyers really don't understand the legality of current grading standards. At some time it's very probable that because of conditions similar to The PCI litigation, which probably with different representation, would have had a differing outcome. It's likely that I'd have established a more objective outcome, as I believe also would JUDGE JUDY. It's highly likely that an evaluation for taxation of an extensive estate will precipitate an action that will drastically change the Numismatic "Industry".</p><p><br /></p><p>Generally, in a legal action, unless there are published verbal/pictorial standards supported by an authoritative party, heresay, subjectivity, opinions, unsupported statements are inadmissible. If new industry standards can't be shown, an objective court probably could/would accept/require value establishment to be based on the last published written/pictorial standard or raw/intrinsic value for grading. The requirement of grading being determined by use of a published written pictorial standard is reasonable if it can be shown that the grading standards for coins in an estate can be shown varying by resubmission to that TPG. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's likely the IRS could/would require an evaluation based on the TPG retail schedule for taxation or recent net auction average sales value. The estate would need to prove a basis for the net tax amount due.</p><p><br /></p><p>A thesis could easily be written on this horrendous situation which is yet to be tested in the courts. I can virtually guarantee that unlike others, the "industry" will not be found "too big to fail".</p><p><br /></p><p>CAVEAT EMPTOR[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 3418972, member: 22331"]I agree with everything you've said, and this condition with grading standards has continued because most buyers really don't understand the legality of current grading standards. At some time it's very probable that because of conditions similar to The PCI litigation, which probably with different representation, would have had a differing outcome. It's likely that I'd have established a more objective outcome, as I believe also would JUDGE JUDY. It's highly likely that an evaluation for taxation of an extensive estate will precipitate an action that will drastically change the Numismatic "Industry". Generally, in a legal action, unless there are published verbal/pictorial standards supported by an authoritative party, heresay, subjectivity, opinions, unsupported statements are inadmissible. If new industry standards can't be shown, an objective court probably could/would accept/require value establishment to be based on the last published written/pictorial standard or raw/intrinsic value for grading. The requirement of grading being determined by use of a published written pictorial standard is reasonable if it can be shown that the grading standards for coins in an estate can be shown varying by resubmission to that TPG. It's likely the IRS could/would require an evaluation based on the TPG retail schedule for taxation or recent net auction average sales value. The estate would need to prove a basis for the net tax amount due. A thesis could easily be written on this horrendous situation which is yet to be tested in the courts. I can virtually guarantee that unlike others, the "industry" will not be found "too big to fail". CAVEAT EMPTOR[/QUOTE]
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