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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1746802, member: 112&quot;]I think more people have problems identifying harshly cleaned gold coins than they do any others. But I also think a large part of the reason for that is because most folks are not that familiar with gold coins. They just don&#039;t look at as many of them as they do silver &amp; copper coins so it&#039;s harder for them to recognize problems when they see them because they don&#039;t know what those problems look like.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But I can give you a couple of clues. Gold is kind of like copper in a way. Sometimes, when gold has been harshly/improperly cleaned the color is off, it just looks wrong. Those are the ones most people miss. Or, sometimes the coin will not have the luster it should have in relation to the amount of, or lack of, wear on the coin. And usually these two things are almost always due to the coin having been over-dipped.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And yes, over-dipping is a form of harsh cleaning. When an over-dipped coin, copper, gold, silver, whatever, is sent to the TPGs it is still labeled as having been harshly/improperly cleaned. They do not have a separate code for over-dipping.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>As for Matt&#039;s coin, I&#039;d have to agree that I do not think it was harshly/improperly cleaned. But I do agree with NGC that the coin is a problem coin, just not for that reason. And this kind of goes along with another thread currently being discussed, the coin has many light scratches. But not the kind of scratches imparted by a harsh cleaning. But given the size of the coin, the rules are different, more stringent, for smaller coins than they are for larger coins, and the number of scratches, the coin is still a problem coin, IMO, and obviously in NGC&#039;s as well.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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