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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3232736, member: 56859"]I don't have solid coins to match my fourrees. Can I still play? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie82" alt=":shy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> (You know I'm going to anyway <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p><br /></p><p>Like many of these ancient forgeries, this fourree denarius has a believable style. </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/cottafourree-cr314-1c-rt-jpg.505128/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Roman Republic, Lucius Aurelius Cotta</b></p><p>105 BCE</p><p>Fourree AR serrate denarius, 20 mm, 3.8 gm</p><p>Obv: draped bust of Vulcan right, wearing laureate pileus; tongs and star behind; all within wreath and dotted border</p><p>Rev: eagle standing on thunderbolt, head left; L·COT below, V to right; all within laurel wreath and dotted border</p><p>Ref: c.f. Crawford 314/1c; Sydenham 577a; Aurelia 21b</p><p><i>formerly slabbed</i></p><p> </p><p>A solid example <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=363492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=363492" rel="nofollow">from CNG's archives</a>:</p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/4250350.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't have a solid coin to match the next fourree in part because it would take two coins. The obverse copies one coin and the reverse another-- not an uncommon situation with Roman Republican fourrees.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_8082b8ae176246d587794e21e2b76c71.jpg%252Fv1%252Ffit%252Fw_1644%252Ch_1028%252Cq_90%252Cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%252Fae43f8_8082b8ae176246d587794e21e2b76c71.jpg%26hash%3D1322f33116d97e9c8a20f3e5f4936892&hash=15d33cd03626d48cb030cd08f4c2daa5" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Roman Republic fourrée mule denarius</b></p><p><b>L. Antestius Gragulus, 136 BCE, and C. Renius, 138 BCE</b></p><p>ancient forgery, 3.18 gm</p><p>Obv: Roma helmeted head right, * below chin, GRAG behind</p><p>Rev: Juno Caprotina in a biga of goats, C・RENI below, ROMA in exergue</p><p>Ref: Obverse S.115, Cr.238/1, Syd.451, RSC Antestia 9; Reverse S.108, Cr.231/1, Syd.432, RSc Renia 1</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mule-or-goat-both-gragulus-renius-four%C3%A9e-denarius.270214/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mule-or-goat-both-gragulus-renius-four%C3%A9e-denarius.270214/">Short fictional story of how the coin may have come to exist</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Solid examples, both from CNG's archives: (<a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=179233" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=179233" rel="nofollow">Gragulus</a> obverse, <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=108838" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=108838" rel="nofollow">Renius</a> reverse; I think the Renius reverse style is better on my fake than on the official coin shown below <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/886092.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/76001163.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3232736, member: 56859"]I don't have solid coins to match my fourrees. Can I still play? :shy: (You know I'm going to anyway :D) Like many of these ancient forgeries, this fourree denarius has a believable style. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/cottafourree-cr314-1c-rt-jpg.505128/[/IMG] [B]Roman Republic, Lucius Aurelius Cotta[/B] 105 BCE Fourree AR serrate denarius, 20 mm, 3.8 gm Obv: draped bust of Vulcan right, wearing laureate pileus; tongs and star behind; all within wreath and dotted border Rev: eagle standing on thunderbolt, head left; L·COT below, V to right; all within laurel wreath and dotted border Ref: c.f. Crawford 314/1c; Sydenham 577a; Aurelia 21b [I]formerly slabbed[/I] A solid example [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=363492']from CNG's archives[/URL]: [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/4250350.jpg[/IMG] I don't have a solid coin to match the next fourree in part because it would take two coins. The obverse copies one coin and the reverse another-- not an uncommon situation with Roman Republican fourrees. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_8082b8ae176246d587794e21e2b76c71.jpg%252Fv1%252Ffit%252Fw_1644%252Ch_1028%252Cq_90%252Cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%252Fae43f8_8082b8ae176246d587794e21e2b76c71.jpg%26hash%3D1322f33116d97e9c8a20f3e5f4936892&hash=15d33cd03626d48cb030cd08f4c2daa5[/IMG] [B]Roman Republic fourrée mule denarius L. Antestius Gragulus, 136 BCE, and C. Renius, 138 BCE[/B] ancient forgery, 3.18 gm Obv: Roma helmeted head right, * below chin, GRAG behind Rev: Juno Caprotina in a biga of goats, C・RENI below, ROMA in exergue Ref: Obverse S.115, Cr.238/1, Syd.451, RSC Antestia 9; Reverse S.108, Cr.231/1, Syd.432, RSc Renia 1 [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mule-or-goat-both-gragulus-renius-four%C3%A9e-denarius.270214/']Short fictional story of how the coin may have come to exist[/URL] Solid examples, both from CNG's archives: ([URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=179233']Gragulus[/URL] obverse, [URL='https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=108838']Renius[/URL] reverse; I think the Renius reverse style is better on my fake than on the official coin shown below :D) [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/886092.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/76001163.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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