Have you ever heard of anybody finding 5.. Yes they are claiming 5 post 1982 Cents weighing 3.11 grams.. No my friend
If the post is a troll post (Most likely. He reads about the off metal errors and then has some "fun" in here.) Then he doesn't deserve any respect.
Good point! You too have a point, but even the worst side of this forum pales in comparison to the damage done by misinformation and/or those willing to prey upon such people. Sometimes we are a tad hard on the new, but we're also human, and the endless claims of fantastical errors along with the nonsense that often comes with them is enough to turn even the most welcoming into a cynic. By and large, though, most of the heat given to newer members stems not from our collective "arrogance" or desire to be big meanies, but is in direct response to their actions/behavior. I realize the concept of respect begetting respect is going the way of the Dodo in a world where feelings and raw emotion trump all, yet this doesn't mean we must blindly abide by and/or agree with the demands of those coming here not to learn but only seeking confirmation of and/or hoping to sell their magical windfall.
Of course.... but when walking through the dog park, sooner or later you're going to step in it if not careful.
Irrelevant. Stop complaining that the hobby is dying when you're helping drive all the newbies away. Simply take the time to explain why the claim is highly unlikely and then coach / mentor them on actual diagnostic criteria. That way they learn, rather than run away, feeling shamed. It's called courtesy. I realize it's dying in this country, but not on my watch.
Fine.. Then you explain it. I do more than explain things day and night, day after day. I have helped enough people.
The person you quoted is one of the most courteous individuals in this site. I agree with you in general, I am a new member, but the person that created this post never came back with what was requested of him/her, what would that tell you...
If this were a legitimate post from a new member wanting to learn, then I agree with you. But this original post smacks of trollerism. Golden rule applies both ways.
Believe it or not, I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, and I ask with absolute sincerity, perhaps you could share your thoughts as to when enough is enough? I don't catch every thread here, but very rarely do I see anyone excessively tear into a sincere newer member, and this includes those reasonably questioning the explanations they've been given. Yes, there certainly have been instances where just this has happened, but is more the exception than the norm imo. Generally speaking, it's those who refuse to even consider what they're told, do not want to be mentored, and insist upon ignoring the "actual diagnostic criteria" who end up feeling the wrath of those genuinely trying to help them. It is my opinion that such people have absolutely no desire to learn, engage in respectful discourse, or ever become a beneficial part of this hobby. This considered, what damage is done by returning the favor and/or giving a taste of their own medicine? Once someone has shown that they do not care about nor appreciate the fact that a knowledgeable individual has willingly dontated their time to help them, they're no longer worth the effort. If you'd like an example of the type of person I'm taking about, please check out a "Mr. Waggers" thread. Again, I'm asking in total seriousness and simply because our views are most likely to be changed by those willing to challenge them.
The OP has only posted 4 times, the first was based on lack of information which he admitted in the second. The last 2 seems to be more of same with different coin, but he doesn't show the argumentation against information he is given. I do see a modicum of wanting to learn myself unlike some other such. Jim
I think you are 100% correct. There is a way to explain to someone the facts without making mocking comments at the same time. If they truly were a newbie looking for information you may have drove someone away from our hobby. If they were a troll...then why not give them a friendly response and then walk away.
No long term member is buying it...but who’s to say it’s not someone who generally thinks they have found something. Why not give them a kind knowledgeable response rather than a rude one
Buy what? This thread started with a post making a ridiculous claim. And the OP never returned. This whole thread should be deleted. There is nothing here worth discussing.