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<p>[QUOTE="WuntBeDruv, post: 24754326, member: 115520"]There's several things here which do not add up for me. First off, associating the deposition of hoards with individual, fine-grained historical events can often be problematic. Secondly, the coins are an extremely bizarre mix of issues - in addition to some originating from overseas and there being base-metal as well as silver coins present, quite a few are broken or pierced for wearing as jewellery. The date-range is extremely wide and there are quite a few coins here which would almost certainly not have been accepted as money in Scotland during this period. </p><p><br /></p><p>Additionally, the fireplace findspot is simply bizarre in line with the interpretation they've provided, people fleeing from pursuers intent on killing them (if we're going with the Glencoe massacre theory) do not generally tend to bury their wealth in a place which would have required considerable effort to make ready for deposition - quite literally ripping the flagstones up in this instance. </p><p><br /></p><p>Something seems weird about the ceramic vessel used too - I'm not as expert in this field compared with numismatics, but it looks to have already been broken when deposited and is quite possibly a piece of German salt-glazed stoneware. Although this was mostly made in the 16th to early 17th centuries (so yes, might well have been in use during the 1690's), damaged ceramic vessels were usually disposed of once broken - so it seems a bit strange that this piece would simply be lying around for ad hoc use.</p><p><br /></p><p>My verdict? In my view, this is not representative of the stored wealth belonging to a high-status Scottish clan chief or a member of his inner circle. Normally I'd be unwilling to stick my neck out on this issue, but I'm prepared to take flak for it and will accordingly stick my head above the parapet. I do not think this hoard is 'real', I think <i>prima facie </i>that it is a hoax - I suspect a Victorian or early 20th century antiquarian may well be responsible. I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but there are aspects of this which on the basis of the current evidence do not seem to add up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WuntBeDruv, post: 24754326, member: 115520"]There's several things here which do not add up for me. First off, associating the deposition of hoards with individual, fine-grained historical events can often be problematic. Secondly, the coins are an extremely bizarre mix of issues - in addition to some originating from overseas and there being base-metal as well as silver coins present, quite a few are broken or pierced for wearing as jewellery. The date-range is extremely wide and there are quite a few coins here which would almost certainly not have been accepted as money in Scotland during this period. Additionally, the fireplace findspot is simply bizarre in line with the interpretation they've provided, people fleeing from pursuers intent on killing them (if we're going with the Glencoe massacre theory) do not generally tend to bury their wealth in a place which would have required considerable effort to make ready for deposition - quite literally ripping the flagstones up in this instance. Something seems weird about the ceramic vessel used too - I'm not as expert in this field compared with numismatics, but it looks to have already been broken when deposited and is quite possibly a piece of German salt-glazed stoneware. Although this was mostly made in the 16th to early 17th centuries (so yes, might well have been in use during the 1690's), damaged ceramic vessels were usually disposed of once broken - so it seems a bit strange that this piece would simply be lying around for ad hoc use. My verdict? In my view, this is not representative of the stored wealth belonging to a high-status Scottish clan chief or a member of his inner circle. Normally I'd be unwilling to stick my neck out on this issue, but I'm prepared to take flak for it and will accordingly stick my head above the parapet. I do not think this hoard is 'real', I think [I]prima facie [/I]that it is a hoax - I suspect a Victorian or early 20th century antiquarian may well be responsible. I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but there are aspects of this which on the basis of the current evidence do not seem to add up.[/QUOTE]
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