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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;rlm&#039;s cents, post: 2331848, member: 7957&quot;]That is because you were looking at the shape.&nbsp; Look closely at the pictures in that first link.&nbsp; It is raised on the crook in the N.&nbsp; Now granted, this is not limited to only the S-VDB, but all have this feature.&nbsp; The same is true for the VDB dot.&nbsp; So if both are present, then you can look at the S position and possibly the die chip.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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