Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7943254, member: 110504&quot;]Really lovely, [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER].&nbsp; Have to second [USER=87809]@cmezner[/USER]; lovely smile.&nbsp; The same for [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER]&#039;s example.&nbsp; There&#039;s something resonantly poignant about seeing this kind of beauty, hidden in plain sight on a coin with obvious, um, &#039;defects.&#039;&nbsp; Coins to love, for what they are.&nbsp; Who&#039;s going to argue?</p><p><br /></p><p>And [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER] (&quot;it was from a famous collection, is now illustrated in a book and was unsold in a premier auction&quot;), that&#039;s an amazing triangulation.&nbsp; Not to mention a magnificent example.&nbsp; I could only wish that my sole, representative RR denarius (M. Cipius --as common as they get, and sadly no longer in the collection) was as good.</p><p><br /></p><p>...And, Woops, some of you probably saw this coming.&nbsp; For collectors who mostly do the medieval thing, the beauty runs more to the cognitive than the aesthetic side of the net experience ...since, for vast swathes of the period (with numerous exceptions, which inexorably prove the rule), it really is a zero-sum game: most of the time, you get one or the other.&nbsp; Thank you, of the two.&nbsp; (...Among Medievals folk here, if you&#039;d care to argue, you&#039;ve obviously got a bigger budget.)&nbsp; What you can get instead is some form of a miniature historical document, representing a particular reign (...already cool for practicing genealogists), and its wider milieu, both culturally and geographically.</p><p><br /></p><p>With that as overly-expansive context (Slap me, I&#039;m Autism Spectrum --cf. the Flappers in Swift, <u>Gulliver&#039;s Travels</u>), there&#039;s this.&nbsp; It&#039;s easily the ugliest coin in the collection, that I love the most.&nbsp; ...Think about your childhood, and how much you still needed that one stuffed animal, after you&#039;d &#039;loved it to death.&#039;&nbsp; Replete with attendant genealogy, this one kind of feels like that.&nbsp; I got enormous help from a French dealer, who steered me toward this attribution, away from a late Carolingian one I was considering, from inexorably limited available information.&nbsp; (It was on Delcampe, unattributed as the driven snow.&nbsp; Initially, all I said was, &#039;That (expletive of choice, polysyllabic or not) is !0th Century, and You&#039;re Having It.&#039;</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1375246[/ATTACH]</p><p>&quot;Hugues Capet.&quot;&nbsp; Denier of Senlis.</p><p>Rev.&nbsp; In two lines: :SILVA NECTIS; crosslets above and below.</p><p>Obv. (ostensibly --as in, from what you can see: ) +C[/&#039;G&#039;]RATIA D-I REX.</p><p>[The standard formula of Carolingian legends, since the Edict of Pitres in 864.&nbsp; Regarding legends, this is the spine of that many feudal immobilizations, all over France, into the 11th and 12th centuries.]&nbsp; In field: &quot;HV[O DVX en cercle autour d&#039;un croisette.&quot;</p><p>Duplessy, <u>Féodales</u> 6.&nbsp; This attribution follows a couple centuries of published precedent, well explicated by [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] in other, recent threads.&nbsp; Except that, for one, this listing from CNG cites Legros (on the &#039;Too Much Money for Another Book, when there&#039;s Minus Zero Space on the Bookshelves&#039; side of life), reattributing it to Hugo Magnus, Hugh Capet&#039;s dad.</p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Lot.aspx?LOT_ID=4470&amp;BACK_URL=%2fLots.aspx%3fIS_ADVANCED%3d1%26ITEM_IS_SOLD%3d1%26ITEM_INVENTORY_NUMBER%3d%26CONTAINER_NAME%3d%26ITEM_LOT_NUMBER%3d%26ITEM_DESC%3dsenlis%2bdenier%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4%3d1%26VIEW_TYPE%3d0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Lot.aspx?LOT_ID=4470&amp;BACK_URL=%2fLots.aspx%3fIS_ADVANCED%3d1%26ITEM_IS_SOLD%3d1%26ITEM_INVENTORY_NUMBER%3d%26CONTAINER_NAME%3d%26ITEM_LOT_NUMBER%3d%26ITEM_DESC%3dsenlis%2bdenier%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2%3d1%26SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4%3d1%26VIEW_TYPE%3d0" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Lot.aspx?LOT_ID=4470&amp;BACK_URL=/Lots.aspx?IS_ADVANCED=1&amp;ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&amp;ITEM_INVENTORY_NUMBER=&amp;CONTAINER_NAME=&amp;ITEM_LOT_NUMBER=&amp;ITEM_DESC=senlis+denier&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1&amp;VIEW_TYPE=0</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in