Pontius Pilate prutah

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  1. Nathan F

    Nathan F Well-Known Member

    I am considering picking up this prutah from Pontius Pilate and want to know what peoples opinions are on what I should expect to pay. Thanks in advance for the help!
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  3. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Well, that one is quite rough (although could possibly be improved with some cleaning). I'd suggest $30-$40.

    On a side note, the attribution of these coins as "Pontius Pilate" prutah is, IMO, just marketing to inflate the price of otherwise very common coins. The name of Tiberius, not Pilate, appears on the legend. There's nothing about the coin to say it's a Pilate coin, other than the fact that Pilate was governor of Judea at the time. We don't attribute a 2003 San Francisco Mint dime as an Arnold Schwarzenegger dime just because he was governor of California at the time.
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Haha good analogy!

    inb4 ebayers start trying to sell “super rare Schwarzenegger dimes”
  5. Nathan F

    Nathan F Well-Known Member

    If I were to buy it should I clean it and if so how should I go about it?
    (Also I think that the sellers pictures may not do it's condition full justice)
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  6. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Forum has a good overview on cleaning coins:
    https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Uncleaned Ancient Coins

    For bronze coins - soak in olive oil or distilled water & gently scrub with a brass brush (or similar). We don't want to remove green patina though, just the dirt.

    Yes, some coins are better in the hand than in photos. I've had a few pleasant surprises when a coin arrives in the mail.
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  7. Nathan F

    Nathan F Well-Known Member

    BTW I think what you said about marketing overhype also applys big time to the "Biblical Widows Mite"
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  8. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    The decision to clean or not to clean depends on
    Oh absolutely. And the "tribute pennies" and "star of Bethlehem" coins.
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Ummm, dude if you know the guy and are picking up then please ask if he has any spear heads for sale from around some 1,985 years ago?
    I couldn't resist the allure.
    I mean, it was made, there, under his watch (aaand within the price range our old CT pal @GregH has recommended paying within:D)
    Puntchys Pilates (sounds like my wife's workout routine)
    Pontius Pilate
    (Procurator 26-36 CE). AE Prutah, Jerusalem mint, 30-31 AD. D/ Lituus. TIBEPIOY KAICAPOC. Dated RY 17 of Tiberius (30 CE R/ LIZ within wreath. RPC 4968. Hendin 649. AE. g. 1.95 mm. 16.00 About VF. Former Artemide Kunstauktionen
  10. Nathan F

    Nathan F Well-Known Member

    I think there’s a distinction as one was likely involved in many transactions amongst the populous of the time and one wasn’t.
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter


    Judaea Pontius Pilate 14-37 CE - Prutah TIBEPIOY KAICAPOC Lituus Hendin 1342

    Judaea Pontius Pilate - Prutah Julia - IOYLIA KAICAPOC Julia Caesar - LIVIA wife of Augustus
    Hendin 1341
  12. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    What --no Arnold Schwarzeneggers?
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    They ARE Arnolds!

    Yes, since this is the Internet, and since I CALL them that, then they are BELIEVED by everyone, and they BECOME Arnold Schwarzeneggers!
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  14. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    The Defense Rests. :<}}}
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    I want a Schwarzenegger dime.
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  16. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    A Pilate is still on my list. I think David Hendin has argued that the priestly implement on the OP coin (the curved staff or lituus) was designed to be insulting to the monotheistic Jewish population. I can neither confirm nor deny, but Hendin knows a bit more about biblical coins than I do.
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