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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2933714, member: 10461"]<b><font size="6">What should the next newp be?</font></b></p><p><br /></p><p>My current cash status is pinched, to say the least, so there will not be any bigger purchases for the rest of the year unless I sell off some of my beloved but secondary love token collection (which I've decided to sacrifice to feed my <i>more</i>-beloved primary collection).</p><p><br /></p><p>Back when the Eclectic Box was a "box of twenty" collection with a fixed limit of pieces, I was for a time trying to bring the minimum value of all the inidividual coins up to $200+. Now that I've abandoned the limit of twenty pieces and am letting the collection grow - gradually, as money permits - I see no reason to set an arbitrary minimum value per coin, though I do want to maintain some standards of quality and eye appeal, obviously.</p><p><br /></p><p>This final purchase of the year is likely to be more in the high two-figure price range (or just barely over $100) rather than in the mid-three-figure price tier. Two of the selections below are for sale for less than $100 US (if only <i>just</i>), with the third costing a little bit over a hundred bucks.</p><p><br /></p><p>Vote for whichever one(s) you like the most or find the most interesting/appealing. There is, of course, no guarantee that that's the one I'll choose (or that I won't end up going for something else entirely), but this trio is my "short list" of contenders.</p><p><br /></p><p>(All of these are for sale on overseas sites, so the prices are converted from Euros, hence the seemingly odd US dollar amounts. I might encounter an additional surcharge for PayPal currency conversion.)</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><font size="6"><span style="color: #ff0000">Coin A: </span></font></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>England (Tudor): silver sixpence of Elizabeth I, 1575.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>This one is well-worn but has nice grey toning and I like its appearance, for the money. It has a reasonably decent portrait for a lower grade example. And it is a <i>dated</i> coin. I've wanted a decent (dated) Elizabeth I coin for a while- the only one I've owned previously was a <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi88.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk173%2Flordmarcovan%2FHoley%2520Coins-%2520World%2FHCV-GrBrit-England-2d-1572.jpg&hash=a928309d5c23de1633a68025a7fbbc27" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi88.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk173%2Flordmarcovan%2FHoley%2520Coins-%2520World%2FHCV-GrBrit-England-2d-1572.jpg&hash=a928309d5c23de1633a68025a7fbbc27">holed 157(-2?) halfgroat</a> with a typically ghosted-out portrait, on my old Holey Coin Vest. And it seems her larger denominations were all undated, since putting dates on English coins was still not yet a regular practice at the time. So I've been keeping an eye on sixpence coins, but with any kind of eye appeal, they tend to get rather pricey. I think this one is a wholesome "compromise" coin, with acceptable looks and an affordable pricetag. But if I <i>do</i> add it to the Eclectic box, it would become my lowest grade coin for now, since everything I presently have in there is VF or better. I've been reading a little about the Tudors lately (thanks for the book, [USER=81808]@Aethelred[/USER]), so naturally my numismatic attention is drawn to their coins a bit.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #006600">Price: $85.68</span></b> ($82.16 + $3.52 shipping)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]712916[/ATTACH]</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><font size="6"><span style="color: #ff0000">Coin B:</span></font> </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>German States (Pomerania-Stettin): silver doppelschilling of Bogislaw XIV, undated, ca. 1620-1625.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>This coin is monster-toned and just <i>maybe</i> Mint State (though that's difficult for me personally to determine). Plus, it has a crudely rendered but charming griffin on it. Griffins happen to be my favorite mythical beastie. (Trivia: the original Lord Marcovan* character rode a griffin he had befriended after saving its life.) Pomerania-Stettin is now a part of modern Poland, but these coins seem to be cataloged under the German States, which I suppose reflects the 17th century political borders during the time they were made.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #006600">Price: $99.76</span></b> ($88.02 + 11.74 shipping)</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3">(*<i>Lord Marcovan</i> was a half-elven Ranger lord and my favorite <i>Dungeons & Dragons</i> character I created during my misspent early-1980s teen years, when I should have been studying instead of daydreaming. I eventually decided to work on my real-life character and seek real treasures instead of imaginary ones, but ol' Lord M did survive to become my Internet alter-ego and username.)</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]712917[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><font size="6"><span style="color: #ff0000">Coin C:</span></font> Germany (Imperial): aluminum pfennig, 1917-E, off-center mint error.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a neat error. It's been in my watchlist for more than a year. I'm not an error coin specialist, but when I do buy them, I like 'em dramatic and easy to notice, which is why I gravitate to off-center or multiply-struck pieces. I already have an obsolete <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/33019522" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/33019522" rel="nofollow">off-center coin</a> in the Eclectic Box, and this German Kaiserreich piece is a relatively common type in general, but the seller calls it "CH UNC" and I am inclined to agree that it does indeed look like a nice Mint State example. The photos seem to be a bit overexposed, but if I buy it, this will go to PCGS and get the TrueView photography. I initially was thinking this was one of the iron WW1 issues, but I guess those were just the 5- and 10-pfennig pieces. These 1-pfennig coins are aluminum, which explains why this one is so brightly whitish in color. I also like the orientation of the off-center strike in this case, which left the date and mintmarks visible, as well as all of the essentials of the design, despite being significantly off-center (and therefore quite appealing as an error). It is the only coin on this list over $100, but I think it's a pretty reasonable option at the price, given the error and the likely MS grade. A non-error coin of this date and type catalogs for a mere <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/germany-empire-pfennig-km-24-1916-1918-cuid-1130202-duid-1312444" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/germany-empire-pfennig-km-24-1916-1918-cuid-1130202-duid-1312444" rel="nofollow">$18 in MS63</a>, however, so unsurprisingly, there is a significant premium here for the error. But that is to be expected.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #006600">Price: $122.65</span></b> ($111.50 + $11.15 shipping)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]712918[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2933714, member: 10461"][B][SIZE=6]What should the next newp be?[/SIZE][/B] My current cash status is pinched, to say the least, so there will not be any bigger purchases for the rest of the year unless I sell off some of my beloved but secondary love token collection (which I've decided to sacrifice to feed my [I]more[/I]-beloved primary collection). Back when the Eclectic Box was a "box of twenty" collection with a fixed limit of pieces, I was for a time trying to bring the minimum value of all the inidividual coins up to $200+. Now that I've abandoned the limit of twenty pieces and am letting the collection grow - gradually, as money permits - I see no reason to set an arbitrary minimum value per coin, though I do want to maintain some standards of quality and eye appeal, obviously. This final purchase of the year is likely to be more in the high two-figure price range (or just barely over $100) rather than in the mid-three-figure price tier. Two of the selections below are for sale for less than $100 US (if only [I]just[/I]), with the third costing a little bit over a hundred bucks. Vote for whichever one(s) you like the most or find the most interesting/appealing. There is, of course, no guarantee that that's the one I'll choose (or that I won't end up going for something else entirely), but this trio is my "short list" of contenders. (All of these are for sale on overseas sites, so the prices are converted from Euros, hence the seemingly odd US dollar amounts. I might encounter an additional surcharge for PayPal currency conversion.) [B] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#ff0000]Coin A: [/COLOR][/SIZE] England (Tudor): silver sixpence of Elizabeth I, 1575.[/B] This one is well-worn but has nice grey toning and I like its appearance, for the money. It has a reasonably decent portrait for a lower grade example. And it is a [I]dated[/I] coin. I've wanted a decent (dated) Elizabeth I coin for a while- the only one I've owned previously was a [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi88.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk173%2Flordmarcovan%2FHoley%2520Coins-%2520World%2FHCV-GrBrit-England-2d-1572.jpg&hash=a928309d5c23de1633a68025a7fbbc27']holed 157(-2?) halfgroat[/URL] with a typically ghosted-out portrait, on my old Holey Coin Vest. And it seems her larger denominations were all undated, since putting dates on English coins was still not yet a regular practice at the time. So I've been keeping an eye on sixpence coins, but with any kind of eye appeal, they tend to get rather pricey. I think this one is a wholesome "compromise" coin, with acceptable looks and an affordable pricetag. But if I [I]do[/I] add it to the Eclectic box, it would become my lowest grade coin for now, since everything I presently have in there is VF or better. I've been reading a little about the Tudors lately (thanks for the book, [USER=81808]@Aethelred[/USER]), so naturally my numismatic attention is drawn to their coins a bit. [B][COLOR=#006600]Price: $85.68[/COLOR][/B] ($82.16 + $3.52 shipping) [ATTACH=full]712916[/ATTACH] [B] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#ff0000]Coin B:[/COLOR][/SIZE] German States (Pomerania-Stettin): silver doppelschilling of Bogislaw XIV, undated, ca. 1620-1625. [/B] This coin is monster-toned and just [I]maybe[/I] Mint State (though that's difficult for me personally to determine). Plus, it has a crudely rendered but charming griffin on it. Griffins happen to be my favorite mythical beastie. (Trivia: the original Lord Marcovan* character rode a griffin he had befriended after saving its life.) Pomerania-Stettin is now a part of modern Poland, but these coins seem to be cataloged under the German States, which I suppose reflects the 17th century political borders during the time they were made. [B][COLOR=#006600]Price: $99.76[/COLOR][/B] ($88.02 + 11.74 shipping) [SIZE=3](*[I]Lord Marcovan[/I] was a half-elven Ranger lord and my favorite [I]Dungeons & Dragons[/I] character I created during my misspent early-1980s teen years, when I should have been studying instead of daydreaming. I eventually decided to work on my real-life character and seek real treasures instead of imaginary ones, but ol' Lord M did survive to become my Internet alter-ego and username.) [ATTACH=full]712917[/ATTACH] [/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6][COLOR=#ff0000]Coin C:[/COLOR][/SIZE] Germany (Imperial): aluminum pfennig, 1917-E, off-center mint error.[/B] This is a neat error. It's been in my watchlist for more than a year. I'm not an error coin specialist, but when I do buy them, I like 'em dramatic and easy to notice, which is why I gravitate to off-center or multiply-struck pieces. I already have an obsolete [URL='https://www.pcgs.com/cert/33019522']off-center coin[/URL] in the Eclectic Box, and this German Kaiserreich piece is a relatively common type in general, but the seller calls it "CH UNC" and I am inclined to agree that it does indeed look like a nice Mint State example. The photos seem to be a bit overexposed, but if I buy it, this will go to PCGS and get the TrueView photography. I initially was thinking this was one of the iron WW1 issues, but I guess those were just the 5- and 10-pfennig pieces. These 1-pfennig coins are aluminum, which explains why this one is so brightly whitish in color. I also like the orientation of the off-center strike in this case, which left the date and mintmarks visible, as well as all of the essentials of the design, despite being significantly off-center (and therefore quite appealing as an error). It is the only coin on this list over $100, but I think it's a pretty reasonable option at the price, given the error and the likely MS grade. A non-error coin of this date and type catalogs for a mere [URL='https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/germany-empire-pfennig-km-24-1916-1918-cuid-1130202-duid-1312444']$18 in MS63[/URL], however, so unsurprisingly, there is a significant premium here for the error. But that is to be expected. [B][COLOR=#006600]Price: $122.65[/COLOR][/B] ($111.50 + $11.15 shipping) [ATTACH=full]712918[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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