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<p>[QUOTE="Jwt708, post: 2725499, member: 32619"]Well here are my coins relevant to the discussion:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-157-crispus-military-garb.4980/full" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Crispus Caesar, AD 317-326</p><p>Ӕ Follis, 18m, 3.1g, 6h; London mint, AD 318</p><p>Obv.: FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate draped cuirassed bust right</p><p>Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Crispus standing right in military dress, holding spear and shield, crescent in left field </p><p>In Ex.: PLN</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-85-constantine-ii-military-garb.4049/full" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Constantine II</p><p>AE Reduced follis, 18mm, 3.1g; 6h; London, 318 AD</p><p>Obv.: FL CL CONSTANTINVS IVN NC; Bust laureate, draped cuirassed, seen from back</p><p>Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Prince in military dress, standing right, cloak spread, leaning on reversed vertical spear, hand resting on shield; crescent right</p><p>In Ex.: PLN</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-160-constantius-ii-soldier.5169/full" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Constantius II, AD 337-361</p><p>Æ15, 1.5g, 6h; Trier mint, A.D. 337- 340</p><p>Obv.: FL IVL CONSTANTIVS AVG; Laureate, cuirassed bust right.</p><p>Rev.: VIRTVS AVGG NN; Soldier standing holding spear and resting hand on shield In Ex.: TRP</p><p><br /></p><p>If someone could find me the above reverse type with Constans...that would be great...</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-3-constans-glory-to-the-military.3674/full" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Constans, AD 337-350</p><p>AE, follis, 16mm, 1.5g; 12h; Siscia, AD 337-341</p><p>Obv.: CONSTAN-S PF AVG; rosette-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right</p><p>Rev.: GLOR-IAEXERC-ITVS; two soldiers with spears and shields, facing one standard, chi-rho on banner</p><p>In Ex.: BSIS</p><p><br /></p><p>I voted "Appropriate" because I am trusting that Constantine was in the best position to decide what to do with his family. I don't have a solid understanding of the family dynamics at the time, but in general, it is my understanding that the head of household could kill members of the family, as necessary. By today's measure this is ridiculous but I think it is unreasonable to apply a standard that didn't exist when judging the past.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jwt708, post: 2725499, member: 32619"]Well here are my coins relevant to the discussion: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-157-crispus-military-garb.4980/full[/IMG] Crispus Caesar, AD 317-326 Ӕ Follis, 18m, 3.1g, 6h; London mint, AD 318 Obv.: FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate draped cuirassed bust right Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Crispus standing right in military dress, holding spear and shield, crescent in left field In Ex.: PLN [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-85-constantine-ii-military-garb.4049/full[/IMG] Constantine II AE Reduced follis, 18mm, 3.1g; 6h; London, 318 AD Obv.: FL CL CONSTANTINVS IVN NC; Bust laureate, draped cuirassed, seen from back Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Prince in military dress, standing right, cloak spread, leaning on reversed vertical spear, hand resting on shield; crescent right In Ex.: PLN [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-160-constantius-ii-soldier.5169/full[/IMG] Constantius II, AD 337-361 Æ15, 1.5g, 6h; Trier mint, A.D. 337- 340 Obv.: FL IVL CONSTANTIVS AVG; Laureate, cuirassed bust right. Rev.: VIRTVS AVGG NN; Soldier standing holding spear and resting hand on shield In Ex.: TRP If someone could find me the above reverse type with Constans...that would be great... [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/media/jwt-3-constans-glory-to-the-military.3674/full[/IMG] Constans, AD 337-350 AE, follis, 16mm, 1.5g; 12h; Siscia, AD 337-341 Obv.: CONSTAN-S PF AVG; rosette-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev.: GLOR-IAEXERC-ITVS; two soldiers with spears and shields, facing one standard, chi-rho on banner In Ex.: BSIS I voted "Appropriate" because I am trusting that Constantine was in the best position to decide what to do with his family. I don't have a solid understanding of the family dynamics at the time, but in general, it is my understanding that the head of household could kill members of the family, as necessary. By today's measure this is ridiculous but I think it is unreasonable to apply a standard that didn't exist when judging the past.[/QUOTE]
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