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<p>[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3163855, member: 83845"]Hello everyone and welcome to Round 2 of the 2018 CoinTalk Imperator Tournament! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun in the master thread;</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it’s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]812870[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A big thank you to all of our participants. Without further ado…</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>#7 [USER=95174]@BenSi[/USER] </b></u></span></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]812872[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>JOHN II AE TETARTERON S-1953V DOC 14 Zervos Variation </b></font></p><p><font size="3">OBV <u>Half-length figure of Chris</u>t, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion; holds gospels open in l. hand</font></p><p><font size="3">REV. Bust of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys; holds in r. hand jeweled scepter on a long shaft and in l. Globus cruciger.</font></p><p><font size="3">This is a variation of the normal SBCV-1953 first published by Orestes Zervos in Jan 2005, the difference is very subtle, Christ is normally depicted as a bust not a half length figure. The coin was minted in Thessalonica and unlike my last John II submission contains no silver.</font></p><p><font size="3">Weight 4.00 gm</font></p><p><font size="3">Size 21 mm</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $26</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Why It’s Cool:</u></b></p><p>John II Komnenos, also known as John the Good, ruled the Eastern Roman Empire from 1118-1143. He was the son of Alexius I. His seals bore the word <i>porphyrogennetos</i>, meaning “born in the purple”. </p><p><br /></p><p>For some additional information about John II and his interesting family life see the write up from my Round 1 entry <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-3-7-bensi-vs-26-ryro-round-1-cit-2018.320584/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-3-7-bensi-vs-26-ryro-round-1-cit-2018.320584/">here</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Eastern Roman art evolved through the centuries, the portraits returned to a head on view (as seen in Greek coinage) instead of the Roman Imperial profile bust view. The art of the coins also became much less defined. This was not from a lack of talent but rather from a philosophy; the revival of the Greek theory of Spiritualism, which held that <b>true beauty exists from within. It’s for that reason the coins became far more abstract and subtler in the characterization of the Emperor. </b>This coin is an excellent example and has a beauty in its simplicity.</p><p><br /></p><p><u>Numismatic interest:</u> The other notable fact regarding this coin is that it is a variation, when variations simply did not exist. The Eastern Roman empire was so strict in its rituals that any variation of coinage would have been unacceptable to the government. This coin depicts Christ as a half length figure when he was normally depicted as a bust. Any variations of Eastern Roman coinage are treasures for any collection. This is a variation of the normal SBCV-1953 and was first published by Orestes Zervos in Jan 2005.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>#10 [USER=4298]@Cucumbor[/USER] </b></u></span></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]812877[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>Gallienus, Antoninianus</b></font></p><p><font size="3">Rome mint, 7th officina, AD 267-268</font></p><p><font size="3">GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head of Gallienus right</font></p><p><font size="3">APOLLINI CONS AVG, Centaur walking right, drawing bow. Z at exergue</font></p><p><font size="3">2.41 gr</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : Cohen # 72, RCV # 10177, Göbl # 735b, RIC # 163, Cmr # 2a7</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $14</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Why It’s Cool:</u></b></p><p>This antoninianus has been struck on a flaked planchet, somewhat irregular, with an area of flatness on the emperor’s portrait and even a scar on his face. Yet it’s a very pleasant coin with a most appealing reverse type and a wonderful patina. Under its appearance this coin has a soul. Remember, when you first saw his movies, isn’t this exactly how Chaplin’s Tramp conquered your heart and the world?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]812878[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Gallienus ruled as co-emperor with his father, Valerianus, until 260 CE when Valerianus was famously defeated and taken prisoner by the Parthians under Shapur I. From 260 CE onward Gallienus was the sole emperor of the Roman Empire. During the time of his sole reign (260-268 CE) he had to face one of the most challenging (to keep it PC, but it was a fricken mess) periods of the Roman Empire: multiple barbarous invasions, revolts led by Aureolus in Italy and Postumus in Gaul, and, last but not least, a monetary crisis.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 267 CE Gallienus decided to try to convince the gods to be "on his side" by issuing a series of coins at the Rome mint known as "the zoo series." The coins invoked Apollo, Diana, Hercules, Jupiter, Mercury, and Neptune and featured different animals on the reverse, both real or mythological (goat, panther, hippocamp, centaur, gryphon, etc….)</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin's reverse inscription invokes Apollo and reads "to Apollo, preserver of the Augustus". Additionally, the centaur Chiron was said to be a student of Apollo in Greco-Roman mythology which makes the reverse imagery all the more interesting and appropriate.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here’s an overview of the zoo series coins currently in my collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]812879[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This zoo series is very popular nowadays among ancient coin collectors because of a well identified theme (such as the travel series of Hadrian or the Divi series of Trajan Decius). It has multiple distinctive and cool reverses, obtainable at decent prices because of their good availability on the market. The set is "doable" by any collector, even on a budget, because while some of them are scarce, none are exceedingly rare to the point you wouldn’t find one in the next ten years.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, good strike and excellent style are seldom seen in this series, resulting from the troubled period they were issued: it’s also part of their history and a reflection of the political situation of the time.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><b><font size="5"><span style="color: #808080"><u>A Gentle Reminder</u></span></font></b></p><p>Round 1 went about as well as anyone could have hoped from the perspective of keeping the commentary fun, interesting and friendly. It would be a challenge to run a tournament of this type on almost any other board but with the great people here on CT it has been both an honor and a pleasure. Lets try to keep up with the perfect score in the friendliness department by concentrating comments on why you liked an entry instead of why you didn't like the other.</p><p><br /></p><p>Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the thread for comments, opinions, coin pile-ons and random posting of coin things as you see fit.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3163855, member: 83845"]Hello everyone and welcome to Round 2 of the 2018 CoinTalk Imperator Tournament! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun in the master thread; [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/']https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it’s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]812870[/ATTACH] A big thank you to all of our participants. Without further ado… [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=7][COLOR=#808080][U][B]#7 [USER=95174]@BenSi[/USER] [/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]812872[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]JOHN II AE TETARTERON S-1953V DOC 14 Zervos Variation [/B] OBV [U]Half-length figure of Chris[/U]t, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion; holds gospels open in l. hand REV. Bust of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys; holds in r. hand jeweled scepter on a long shaft and in l. Globus cruciger. This is a variation of the normal SBCV-1953 first published by Orestes Zervos in Jan 2005, the difference is very subtle, Christ is normally depicted as a bust not a half length figure. The coin was minted in Thessalonica and unlike my last John II submission contains no silver. Weight 4.00 gm Size 21 mm[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $26 [B][U]Why It’s Cool:[/U][/B] John II Komnenos, also known as John the Good, ruled the Eastern Roman Empire from 1118-1143. He was the son of Alexius I. His seals bore the word [I]porphyrogennetos[/I], meaning “born in the purple”. For some additional information about John II and his interesting family life see the write up from my Round 1 entry [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/poll-3-7-bensi-vs-26-ryro-round-1-cit-2018.320584/']here[/URL]. As Eastern Roman art evolved through the centuries, the portraits returned to a head on view (as seen in Greek coinage) instead of the Roman Imperial profile bust view. The art of the coins also became much less defined. This was not from a lack of talent but rather from a philosophy; the revival of the Greek theory of Spiritualism, which held that [B]true beauty exists from within. It’s for that reason the coins became far more abstract and subtler in the characterization of the Emperor. [/B]This coin is an excellent example and has a beauty in its simplicity. [U]Numismatic interest:[/U] The other notable fact regarding this coin is that it is a variation, when variations simply did not exist. The Eastern Roman empire was so strict in its rituals that any variation of coinage would have been unacceptable to the government. This coin depicts Christ as a half length figure when he was normally depicted as a bust. Any variations of Eastern Roman coinage are treasures for any collection. This is a variation of the normal SBCV-1953 and was first published by Orestes Zervos in Jan 2005. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=7][COLOR=#808080][U][B]#10 [USER=4298]@Cucumbor[/USER] [/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]812877[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Gallienus, Antoninianus[/B] Rome mint, 7th officina, AD 267-268 GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head of Gallienus right APOLLINI CONS AVG, Centaur walking right, drawing bow. Z at exergue 2.41 gr Ref : Cohen # 72, RCV # 10177, Göbl # 735b, RIC # 163, Cmr # 2a7[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $14 [B][U]Why It’s Cool:[/U][/B] This antoninianus has been struck on a flaked planchet, somewhat irregular, with an area of flatness on the emperor’s portrait and even a scar on his face. Yet it’s a very pleasant coin with a most appealing reverse type and a wonderful patina. Under its appearance this coin has a soul. Remember, when you first saw his movies, isn’t this exactly how Chaplin’s Tramp conquered your heart and the world? [ATTACH=full]812878[/ATTACH] Gallienus ruled as co-emperor with his father, Valerianus, until 260 CE when Valerianus was famously defeated and taken prisoner by the Parthians under Shapur I. From 260 CE onward Gallienus was the sole emperor of the Roman Empire. During the time of his sole reign (260-268 CE) he had to face one of the most challenging (to keep it PC, but it was a fricken mess) periods of the Roman Empire: multiple barbarous invasions, revolts led by Aureolus in Italy and Postumus in Gaul, and, last but not least, a monetary crisis. In 267 CE Gallienus decided to try to convince the gods to be "on his side" by issuing a series of coins at the Rome mint known as "the zoo series." The coins invoked Apollo, Diana, Hercules, Jupiter, Mercury, and Neptune and featured different animals on the reverse, both real or mythological (goat, panther, hippocamp, centaur, gryphon, etc….) This coin's reverse inscription invokes Apollo and reads "to Apollo, preserver of the Augustus". Additionally, the centaur Chiron was said to be a student of Apollo in Greco-Roman mythology which makes the reverse imagery all the more interesting and appropriate. Here’s an overview of the zoo series coins currently in my collection. [ATTACH=full]812879[/ATTACH] This zoo series is very popular nowadays among ancient coin collectors because of a well identified theme (such as the travel series of Hadrian or the Divi series of Trajan Decius). It has multiple distinctive and cool reverses, obtainable at decent prices because of their good availability on the market. The set is "doable" by any collector, even on a budget, because while some of them are scarce, none are exceedingly rare to the point you wouldn’t find one in the next ten years. However, good strike and excellent style are seldom seen in this series, resulting from the troubled period they were issued: it’s also part of their history and a reflection of the political situation of the time. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#808080][U]A Gentle Reminder[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] Round 1 went about as well as anyone could have hoped from the perspective of keeping the commentary fun, interesting and friendly. It would be a challenge to run a tournament of this type on almost any other board but with the great people here on CT it has been both an honor and a pleasure. Lets try to keep up with the perfect score in the friendliness department by concentrating comments on why you liked an entry instead of why you didn't like the other. Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the thread for comments, opinions, coin pile-ons and random posting of coin things as you see fit.[/QUOTE]
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