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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3149943, member: 56859"]Oooooh, it's going to be a close race!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=17567]@frankjg[/USER], I lack a front-facing gorgon/owl & lizard bronze of Kamarina but here are the other two types:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/kamarinatetras-athenaright-owllizard-a-jpg.431264/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/">Kamarina. AE tetras, 420-405 BCE</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/kamarinatetras-athenaleft-owllizard-a-jpg.431261/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/">Kamarina. AE tetras, 420-405 BCE</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nice trash talk, Nickie! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Curtis pointed out though, "Bargain" can be legitimately interpreted in at least two different ways: 1) a bargain compared to others of its type and 2) an inexpensive ancient coin. The trend on CoinTalk seems to be to interpret "bargain" as the latter. I'm using interpretation #1 in this contest (while also factoring in rarity).</p><p><br /></p><p>While not immediately apparent, a check of ACsearch and sales prices confirms that Nick did acquire this coin for a comparative bargain. Frank's coin, while a bargain simply because of the low price, when compared to other Kamarina facing gorgon bronzes, is not a bargain. There are many in recent auction archives which are as cheap or cheaper but with better preservation. </p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here one of my only MFBs, not from the rare locale of Mamar but a favorite in my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttps%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252Fproxy.php%252525253Fimage%252525253Dhttps%25252525253A%25252525252F%25252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252Fproxy.php%25252525253Fimage%25252525253Dhttps%2525252525253A%2525252525252F%2525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252525252Fproxy.php%2525252525253Fimage%2525252525253Dhttps%252525252525253A%252525252525252F%252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252525252Fproxy.php%252525252525253Fimage%252525252525253Dhttps%25252525252525253A%25252525252525252F%25252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252525252Fproxy.php%25252525252525253Fimage%25252525252525253Dhttps%2525252525252525253A%2525252525252525252F%2525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252525252525252Fproxy.php%2525252525252525253Fimage%2525252525252525253Dhttps%252525252525252525253A%252525252525252525252F%252525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252525252525252Fproxy.php%252525252525252525253Fimage%252525252525252525253Dhttps%25252525252525252525253A%25252525252525252525252F%25252525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252525252525252Fproxy.php%25252525252525252525253Fimage%25252525252525252525253Dhttps%2525252525252525252525253A%2525252525252525252525252F%2525252525252525252525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252525252525252525252Fmedia%2525252525252525252525252Fae43f8_be19610cf0d0438296b9691d2c71c9cc.jpg%2525252525252525252525252Fv1%2525252525252525252525252Ffit%2525252525252525252525252Fw_1702%2525252525252525252525252Ch_1064%2525252525252525252525252Cq_90%2525252525252525252525252Cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%2525252525252525252525252Fae43f8_be19610cf0d0438296b9691d2c71c9cc.jpg%252525252525252525252526hash%25252525252525252525253Df8a3a1f91b7b1fdfc37607a9baae58f3%2525252525252525252526hash%252525252525252525253D75165a6384d6fcfb7bc592c9596745a9%25252525252525252526hash%2525252525252525253D38b7d5af62cd46b84bc8fafa14394fcc%252525252525252526hash%25252525252525253D69164ce0a2492a0ea294136a8a93f1b6%2525252525252526hash%252525252525253Dae7142fa58cb3e7ac1f660bb775b0f31%25252525252526hash%2525252525253D200d7b8c25d4829494f49b1dd36a9b8d%252525252526hash%25252525253Df00e4ad265c3dd8beeb49f8d62ecf238%2525252526hash%252525253D8346a65ee8874af7f3a2a95fe2641086%25252526hash%2525253D422ab03cfeadd63c7a46a360b28b0386%252526hash%25253Dfaf7995f9e62a71a5cc4af085cae0f59%2526hash%253Dbcfc73ef4a53edf57bddfff2815655f5%26hash%3D325d9e91fb9518febb99a2fdeebe5f2d&hash=403ab804e0b52021a4ac0bd4f95528aa" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>SICILY, Selinos.</b></p><p>Circa 410 BCE</p><p>AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h</p><p>Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above</p><p>Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right</p><p>Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (<i>this coin</i>); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Rare.</p><p><i>ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;</i></p><p><i>ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;</i></p><p><i>ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript.</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3149943, member: 56859"]Oooooh, it's going to be a close race! [USER=17567]@frankjg[/USER], I lack a front-facing gorgon/owl & lizard bronze of Kamarina but here are the other two types: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/kamarinatetras-athenaright-owllizard-a-jpg.431264/[/IMG] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/']Kamarina. AE tetras, 420-405 BCE[/URL] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/kamarinatetras-athenaleft-owllizard-a-jpg.431261/[/IMG] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/']Kamarina. AE tetras, 420-405 BCE[/URL] Nice trash talk, Nickie! :D . . . As Curtis pointed out though, "Bargain" can be legitimately interpreted in at least two different ways: 1) a bargain compared to others of its type and 2) an inexpensive ancient coin. The trend on CoinTalk seems to be to interpret "bargain" as the latter. I'm using interpretation #1 in this contest (while also factoring in rarity). While not immediately apparent, a check of ACsearch and sales prices confirms that Nick did acquire this coin for a comparative bargain. Frank's coin, while a bargain simply because of the low price, when compared to other Kamarina facing gorgon bronzes, is not a bargain. There are many in recent auction archives which are as cheap or cheaper but with better preservation. . . . Here one of my only MFBs, not from the rare locale of Mamar but a favorite in my collection: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttps%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252Fproxy.php%252525253Fimage%252525253Dhttps%25252525253A%25252525252F%25252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252Fproxy.php%25252525253Fimage%25252525253Dhttps%2525252525253A%2525252525252F%2525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252525252Fproxy.php%2525252525253Fimage%2525252525253Dhttps%252525252525253A%252525252525252F%252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252525252Fproxy.php%252525252525253Fimage%252525252525253Dhttps%25252525252525253A%25252525252525252F%25252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252525252Fproxy.php%25252525252525253Fimage%25252525252525253Dhttps%2525252525252525253A%2525252525252525252F%2525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252525252525252Fproxy.php%2525252525252525253Fimage%2525252525252525253Dhttps%252525252525252525253A%252525252525252525252F%252525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252525252525252Fproxy.php%252525252525252525253Fimage%252525252525252525253Dhttps%25252525252525252525253A%25252525252525252525252F%25252525252525252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252525252525252Fproxy.php%25252525252525252525253Fimage%25252525252525252525253Dhttps%2525252525252525252525253A%2525252525252525252525252F%2525252525252525252525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252525252525252525252Fmedia%2525252525252525252525252Fae43f8_be19610cf0d0438296b9691d2c71c9cc.jpg%2525252525252525252525252Fv1%2525252525252525252525252Ffit%2525252525252525252525252Fw_1702%2525252525252525252525252Ch_1064%2525252525252525252525252Cq_90%2525252525252525252525252Cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%2525252525252525252525252Fae43f8_be19610cf0d0438296b9691d2c71c9cc.jpg%252525252525252525252526hash%25252525252525252525253Df8a3a1f91b7b1fdfc37607a9baae58f3%2525252525252525252526hash%252525252525252525253D75165a6384d6fcfb7bc592c9596745a9%25252525252525252526hash%2525252525252525253D38b7d5af62cd46b84bc8fafa14394fcc%252525252525252526hash%25252525252525253D69164ce0a2492a0ea294136a8a93f1b6%2525252525252526hash%252525252525253Dae7142fa58cb3e7ac1f660bb775b0f31%25252525252526hash%2525252525253D200d7b8c25d4829494f49b1dd36a9b8d%252525252526hash%25252525253Df00e4ad265c3dd8beeb49f8d62ecf238%2525252526hash%252525253D8346a65ee8874af7f3a2a95fe2641086%25252526hash%2525253D422ab03cfeadd63c7a46a360b28b0386%252526hash%25253Dfaf7995f9e62a71a5cc4af085cae0f59%2526hash%253Dbcfc73ef4a53edf57bddfff2815655f5%26hash%3D325d9e91fb9518febb99a2fdeebe5f2d&hash=403ab804e0b52021a4ac0bd4f95528aa[/IMG] [B]SICILY, Selinos.[/B] Circa 410 BCE AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 ([I]this coin[/I]); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Rare. [I]ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich; ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404; ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript.[/I][/QUOTE]
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