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<p>[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3149749, member: 83845"]Welcome to Round 1 of CIT 2018! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun on the following link:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it’s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806655[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I want to give a special thank you to the participants for volunteering to play the game. We have a great group of people here at CT.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="6"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>#13 [USER=17567]@frankjg[/USER] </b></u></span></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806661[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">Greek, Bronze, Onkia</font></p><p><font size="3">Kamerina, Sicily, 420-405BC</font></p><p><font size="3">13.4mm, 1.179g</font></p><p><font size="3">Ovb - Facing head of Medusa (Gorgonian), smooth neat hair tied with ribbon, symmetrical locks on forehead, protruding tongue</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev - Owl standing right on right leg, head facing, lizard with head down in left talon, one pellet (mark of value) in exurgue</font></p><p><font size="3">Mint Mark - KAMA (upward on right)</font></p><p><font size="3">Other - A (control mark)</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $40 </p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Why It's Cool:</u></b></p><p>This particular coin, my first from Sicily, was minted at Kamerina, which no longer exists (abandoned 853AD) but was situated to the south of Scogliti Sicily, where my wife's grandfather was born and lived until he was eight and left for the US with his family.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kamerina was protected by a swamp to it's north, which was suspected of causing a disease outbreak. In 405 BC, An oracle warned the leaders not to drain the swamp, however, the advice was ignored and the swamp was drained. Taking advantage of this error, the armies of Carthage attacked the city and killed or enslaved nearly everyone. This coin could very well have been present for the destruction of the city.</p><p><br /></p><p>Side Note - If you ever find yourself in Scogliti, please do yourself a favor and eat at il Sakalleo. It is the most amazing seafood restaurant I have ever experienced.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="6"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>#20 [USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] </b></u></span></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]806666[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">SICILY: Mamar, bronze hemilitron, c. 409 to 403 B.C.</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 20 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 4.68 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: Forepart of Acheloios Himera as a man-faced bull to left, M-A-M-A-P surrounding, dotted border.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: Winged nymph holding bandage and flying left, spring erupting before, five dots surrounding.</font></p><p><font size="3">Imhoof-Blumer, MG (1883), 22, pl. B, no. 7; BMC Sicily 240, no. 1; Campana 1; MSP I, 45.</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $500</p><p><br /></p><p><u><b> Why It’s Cool:</b></u></p><p>There are only seven known specimens of this coin, including this example.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin features a local embodiment of Acheloios, and is therefore by nature better than any coin not featuring Acheloios (probably like frankjg’s coin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />). Also, the root of Mamar presumably stems from Oscan Mars, indicating the group’s war-like nature. In fact, Pausanias tells us Ares aided Acheloios, so the Mars-Acheloios connection is further reinforced in an early source. The best theory is that the Mamar were Campanian mercenaries originally employed by Carthaginians but later by Dionysius I, those same mercenaries mentioned by Diodorus Siculus (14.1.3; 58.2). Vivat Acheloios!</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><b><font size="5"><span style="color: #808080"><u>A Gentle Reminder</u></span></font></b></p><p>We have had a remarkably fun and friendly tournament so far and I want to thank all of our members who have contributed and commented <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Let's continue to do a good job of keeping our tournament friendly! Instead of focusing comments too much on why you didn't vote for one coin over the other try to focus on why you did vote for the one you chose! </p><p><br /></p><p>Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the floor to comments, pile-ons and shameless lobbying.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3149749, member: 83845"]Welcome to Round 1 of CIT 2018! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun on the following link: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/[/url] [ATTACH=full]806655[/ATTACH] I want to give a special thank you to the participants for volunteering to play the game. We have a great group of people here at CT. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#808080][U][B]#13 [USER=17567]@frankjg[/USER] [/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]806661[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Greek, Bronze, Onkia Kamerina, Sicily, 420-405BC 13.4mm, 1.179g Ovb - Facing head of Medusa (Gorgonian), smooth neat hair tied with ribbon, symmetrical locks on forehead, protruding tongue Rev - Owl standing right on right leg, head facing, lizard with head down in left talon, one pellet (mark of value) in exurgue Mint Mark - KAMA (upward on right) Other - A (control mark)[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $40 [B][U]Why It's Cool:[/U][/B] This particular coin, my first from Sicily, was minted at Kamerina, which no longer exists (abandoned 853AD) but was situated to the south of Scogliti Sicily, where my wife's grandfather was born and lived until he was eight and left for the US with his family. Kamerina was protected by a swamp to it's north, which was suspected of causing a disease outbreak. In 405 BC, An oracle warned the leaders not to drain the swamp, however, the advice was ignored and the swamp was drained. Taking advantage of this error, the armies of Carthage attacked the city and killed or enslaved nearly everyone. This coin could very well have been present for the destruction of the city. Side Note - If you ever find yourself in Scogliti, please do yourself a favor and eat at il Sakalleo. It is the most amazing seafood restaurant I have ever experienced. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#808080][U][B]#20 [USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] [/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]806666[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]SICILY: Mamar, bronze hemilitron, c. 409 to 403 B.C. Dia.: 20 mm Wt.: 4.68 g Obv: Forepart of Acheloios Himera as a man-faced bull to left, M-A-M-A-P surrounding, dotted border. Rev: Winged nymph holding bandage and flying left, spring erupting before, five dots surrounding. Imhoof-Blumer, MG (1883), 22, pl. B, no. 7; BMC Sicily 240, no. 1; Campana 1; MSP I, 45.[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $500 [U][B] Why It’s Cool:[/B][/U] There are only seven known specimens of this coin, including this example. This coin features a local embodiment of Acheloios, and is therefore by nature better than any coin not featuring Acheloios (probably like frankjg’s coin :p). Also, the root of Mamar presumably stems from Oscan Mars, indicating the group’s war-like nature. In fact, Pausanias tells us Ares aided Acheloios, so the Mars-Acheloios connection is further reinforced in an early source. The best theory is that the Mamar were Campanian mercenaries originally employed by Carthaginians but later by Dionysius I, those same mercenaries mentioned by Diodorus Siculus (14.1.3; 58.2). Vivat Acheloios! [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#808080][U]A Gentle Reminder[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] We have had a remarkably fun and friendly tournament so far and I want to thank all of our members who have contributed and commented :) Let's continue to do a good job of keeping our tournament friendly! Instead of focusing comments too much on why you didn't vote for one coin over the other try to focus on why you did vote for the one you chose! Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the floor to comments, pile-ons and shameless lobbying.[/QUOTE]
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