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<p>[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3147315, member: 83845"]Welcome to Round 1 of CIT 2018! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun on the following link:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it’s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805717[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I want to give a special thank you to the participants for volunteering to play the game. We have a great group of people here at CT.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="6"><span style="color: #808080"><b><u>#5 [USER=87271]@AnYangMan[/USER] </u></b></span></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805718[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">AE <i>Boshan Ming</i> Knife, 284 – 279 BC.</font></p><p><font size="3">State of <i>Qi</i>, mint located in <i>Ju</i></font></p><p><font size="3">164 mm, 13.04 g.</font></p><p><font size="3">Hartill 4.46, Rarity 4</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: <i>Boshan</i> 博山Style <i>Ming </i>明, Rev: serial mark <i>Yi</i> 一(one)</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $60</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Why It’s Cool:</u></b></p><p>Like so many of our members here, I tend to collect from a historical perspective. For early Chinese coins this is often quite difficult, with a date range of less than a century seldomly encountered and only the issuing state or city being identifiable. These <i>Boshan </i>(named for the site they were first discovered at in 1802) knives are a welcome exception. They are relatively rare (Hartill gives them a 4/16), so I was quite happy to snag this up from a reputable dealer who had misidentified it as a regular Ming knife for about a tenth of the going rate.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805719[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>They were issued by the <i>Qi </i>齐 state in a short period between 284 and 279 BC and represent the dire situation <i>Qi </i>was in during these five years. Initially, <i>Qi </i>was one of the most prosperous and advanced of all the warring states. It went completely downhill in 300 BC however, when king <i>Min </i>齊湣王 ascended to the throne of <i>Qi</i>. Overconfident, paranoid and a complete megalomaniac (never a good combination), he overstretched his forces while conquering the smaller southern state of <i>Song </i>宋, trying to achieve his dream of unifying China under his rule. The king of the neighbouring <i>Yan</i> state, a far more competent ruler, sensed an opportunity and advanced into Qi territory without opposition. In 284 BC, <i>Yan </i>sacked and occupied the capital of <i>Linzi </i>臨淄, as well as 70 other cities,reducing Qi to only two cities:<i> Jimo </i>即墨 and <i>Ju </i>莒<i>. </i>These <i>Boshan </i>knives were issued within this turbulent period; whoever cast these knives would not have been sure whether his state would survive for another week, month or year.</p><p><br /></p><p>The smaller of the two remaining cities, <i>Ju, </i>was responsible for issuing these knives. Some of the rarer reverses even mention the toponym. In addition, an archaeological excavation in the vicinity of the ancient city of <i>Ju </i>in 1994 yielded the remains of a metal-casting workshop, along with around 70 terracotta moulds for <i>Boshan </i>knives. So the mould which was used in casting my specimen might actually still be around. How awesome is that?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805720[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>One question remains: Why did the once proud <i>Qi </i>state resort to casting such an imitative currency? They were obviously intended to circulate within the <i>Yan</i> state economy, a fact supported by their findspots; the latest theory stating that they were used by merchants in trading with (occupied) <i>Yan </i>territory. They were however cast by a government authority and will undoubtedly have been used to finance the fight against <i>Yan.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Differentiating these <i>Boshan Ming </i>knives from actual <i>Ming</i> knives is quite easy: <i>Boshan </i>knives are usually much lighter, with even heavy specimens not reaching the 15-16 gram standard <i>Yan </i>state <i>Ming </i>knives were cast on. The biggest difference however is the calligraphy of the character on the obverse. Compare the angular <i>Ming </i>of my <i>Boshan </i>knife (left) to the more roundish version found on a regular <i>Ming </i>knife (Right). </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805721[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The production of <i>Boshan</i> knives would come to a halt in 279 BC. After five years of hardship, <i>Qi</i>’s luck would finally turn around; King <i>Min</i> had since been murdered and the capable general <i>Tian Dan</i> 田單 had taken command over the remaining <i>Qi</i> forces. The tipping point would be the unsuccessful <i>Yan</i> siege of <i>Jimo</i>, famous for the unorthodox method of defence used by this general. He dug tunnels under the city walls and when darkness fell released a bunch of oxen, dressed in red silk adorned with daggers and flaming torches, into the <i>Yan </i>encampment. The <i>Yan</i> soldiers thought they were being attacked by dragons (Yikes!) and routed instantly, opening the door for <i>Tian Dan</i> to reconquer all lost <i>Qi </i>lands.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="6"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>#28 [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER]</b></u></span></font> </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]805722[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">Satraps of Caria Maussolos Ar Tetradrachm ME Magistrate. 15.13 grms 23mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv. 3/4 facing head of Apollo laureate</font></p><p><font size="3">Rv. Zeus Labraundod standing right.</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Price:</u></b> $5,100 </p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Why It’s Cool:</u></b></p><p>I really like the portrait of Apollo on this coin. It is so much more artistically rendered than what you normally see in this series. Apollo is depicted as a confident young man. 3/4 facing portraits are among the most difficult for an artist to render and I think the man who did this one did an absolutely superb job. Additionally, the coin was struck under Maussolos, whose tomb was one of the wonders of the ancient world. A beautiful coin stuck by one of the most famous figures of the era, what more can I say?</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">............................................................</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><span style="color: #808080"><u><b>A Gentle Reminder</b></u></span></font></p><p>We have had a remarkably fun and friendly tournament so far and I want to thank all of our members who have contributed and commented <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Let's continue to do a good job of keeping our tournament friendly! Instead of focusing comments too much on why you didn't vote for one coin over the other try to focus on why you did vote for the one you chose! </p><p><br /></p><p>Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the floor to comments, pile-ons and shameless lobbying.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 3147315, member: 83845"]Welcome to Round 1 of CIT 2018! If you are unaware of the tournament I invite you to get caught up with all the fun on the following link: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-it%E2%80%99s-time-the-second-annual-coin-imperator-tournament-2018.320328/[/url] [ATTACH=full]805717[/ATTACH] I want to give a special thank you to the participants for volunteering to play the game. We have a great group of people here at CT. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#808080][B][U]#5 [USER=87271]@AnYangMan[/USER] [/U][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]805718[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]AE [I]Boshan Ming[/I] Knife, 284 – 279 BC. State of [I]Qi[/I], mint located in [I]Ju[/I] 164 mm, 13.04 g. Hartill 4.46, Rarity 4 Obv: [I]Boshan[/I] 博山Style [I]Ming [/I]明, Rev: serial mark [I]Yi[/I] 一(one)[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $60 [B][U]Why It’s Cool:[/U][/B] Like so many of our members here, I tend to collect from a historical perspective. For early Chinese coins this is often quite difficult, with a date range of less than a century seldomly encountered and only the issuing state or city being identifiable. These [I]Boshan [/I](named for the site they were first discovered at in 1802) knives are a welcome exception. They are relatively rare (Hartill gives them a 4/16), so I was quite happy to snag this up from a reputable dealer who had misidentified it as a regular Ming knife for about a tenth of the going rate. [ATTACH=full]805719[/ATTACH] They were issued by the [I]Qi [/I]齐 state in a short period between 284 and 279 BC and represent the dire situation [I]Qi [/I]was in during these five years. Initially, [I]Qi [/I]was one of the most prosperous and advanced of all the warring states. It went completely downhill in 300 BC however, when king [I]Min [/I]齊湣王 ascended to the throne of [I]Qi[/I]. Overconfident, paranoid and a complete megalomaniac (never a good combination), he overstretched his forces while conquering the smaller southern state of [I]Song [/I]宋, trying to achieve his dream of unifying China under his rule. The king of the neighbouring [I]Yan[/I] state, a far more competent ruler, sensed an opportunity and advanced into Qi territory without opposition. In 284 BC, [I]Yan [/I]sacked and occupied the capital of [I]Linzi [/I]臨淄, as well as 70 other cities,reducing Qi to only two cities:[I] Jimo [/I]即墨 and [I]Ju [/I]莒[I]. [/I]These [I]Boshan [/I]knives were issued within this turbulent period; whoever cast these knives would not have been sure whether his state would survive for another week, month or year. The smaller of the two remaining cities, [I]Ju, [/I]was responsible for issuing these knives. Some of the rarer reverses even mention the toponym. In addition, an archaeological excavation in the vicinity of the ancient city of [I]Ju [/I]in 1994 yielded the remains of a metal-casting workshop, along with around 70 terracotta moulds for [I]Boshan [/I]knives. So the mould which was used in casting my specimen might actually still be around. How awesome is that? [ATTACH=full]805720[/ATTACH] One question remains: Why did the once proud [I]Qi [/I]state resort to casting such an imitative currency? They were obviously intended to circulate within the [I]Yan[/I] state economy, a fact supported by their findspots; the latest theory stating that they were used by merchants in trading with (occupied) [I]Yan [/I]territory. They were however cast by a government authority and will undoubtedly have been used to finance the fight against [I]Yan.[/I] Differentiating these [I]Boshan Ming [/I]knives from actual [I]Ming[/I] knives is quite easy: [I]Boshan [/I]knives are usually much lighter, with even heavy specimens not reaching the 15-16 gram standard [I]Yan [/I]state [I]Ming [/I]knives were cast on. The biggest difference however is the calligraphy of the character on the obverse. Compare the angular [I]Ming [/I]of my [I]Boshan [/I]knife (left) to the more roundish version found on a regular [I]Ming [/I]knife (Right). [ATTACH=full]805721[/ATTACH] The production of [I]Boshan[/I] knives would come to a halt in 279 BC. After five years of hardship, [I]Qi[/I]’s luck would finally turn around; King [I]Min[/I] had since been murdered and the capable general [I]Tian Dan[/I] 田單 had taken command over the remaining [I]Qi[/I] forces. The tipping point would be the unsuccessful [I]Yan[/I] siege of [I]Jimo[/I], famous for the unorthodox method of defence used by this general. He dug tunnels under the city walls and when darkness fell released a bunch of oxen, dressed in red silk adorned with daggers and flaming torches, into the [I]Yan [/I]encampment. The [I]Yan[/I] soldiers thought they were being attacked by dragons (Yikes!) and routed instantly, opening the door for [I]Tian Dan[/I] to reconquer all lost [I]Qi [/I]lands. [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=6][COLOR=#808080][U][B]#28 [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER][/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]805722[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Satraps of Caria Maussolos Ar Tetradrachm ME Magistrate. 15.13 grms 23mm Obv. 3/4 facing head of Apollo laureate Rv. Zeus Labraundod standing right.[/SIZE] [B][U]Price:[/U][/B] $5,100 [B][U]Why It’s Cool:[/U][/B] I really like the portrait of Apollo on this coin. It is so much more artistically rendered than what you normally see in this series. Apollo is depicted as a confident young man. 3/4 facing portraits are among the most difficult for an artist to render and I think the man who did this one did an absolutely superb job. Additionally, the coin was struck under Maussolos, whose tomb was one of the wonders of the ancient world. A beautiful coin stuck by one of the most famous figures of the era, what more can I say? [CENTER]............................................................[/CENTER] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#808080][U][B]A Gentle Reminder[/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] We have had a remarkably fun and friendly tournament so far and I want to thank all of our members who have contributed and commented :) Let's continue to do a good job of keeping our tournament friendly! Instead of focusing comments too much on why you didn't vote for one coin over the other try to focus on why you did vote for the one you chose! Remember that everyone gets 3 votes to choose which coin you think comes out on top in each of the three categories. With that I will open the floor to comments, pile-ons and shameless lobbying.[/QUOTE]
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