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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 3094938, member: 66&quot;]Yes they do predate ANACS, they started in 1970 and lasted through at least 1986.&nbsp; I have seen three different varieties of cerificate.&nbsp; From the slabbook</p><p><br /></p><p>PNG (Professional Numismatic Guild) Shortly before ANACS came into existence the PNG began issuing Certificates of Authenticity (and grade?) upon request for coins valued at $200 or more.</p><p><br /></p><p>1.&nbsp; A two page legal sized 8 1/2 X 14 certificate.&nbsp; Copyright date is 1970.&nbsp; Probably used till 1984.</p><p><br /></p><p>2.&nbsp; 8 1/2 X 6 inch two sided certificate.&nbsp; Certificate now has photograph of the coin.&nbsp; Copyright date is 1970, 1984.&nbsp; Latest seen was dated in 1986.&nbsp; I don’t know when these were discontinued.</p><p><br /></p><p>The third variety I saw at the Michigan State show last November.&nbsp; It is also a legal size certificate but has a different layout than #1 above.&nbsp; I do have images of it but not on this computer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also from the book</p><p><br /></p><p>PNG 1 Begun by the Professional Numismatists Guild in 1970, it was my understanding that these were originally intended to “fill in” until ANACS came on line.&nbsp; But they developed a life of their own and continued for many years.&nbsp; This first variety certificate was huge, printed front and back on a sheet of legal sized paper it looked more like a contract.&nbsp; This style was used until 1984.&nbsp; See back on next page.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]781834[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the back of PNG 1.&nbsp; It was obviously intended to be folded in half since the top and bottom texts are inverted.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]781835[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>PNG 2 In 1984 PNG switched from a portrait printing of their contracts to a landscape printing.&nbsp; The certificate carries both the 1970 and 1984 copyright dates.&nbsp; The defect locator has been replaced with a photo of the coin.&nbsp; The certificate is now 8 1/2 X 6 inches.&nbsp; Obviously the text has changed considerably.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]781836[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You will notice that the first variety does not have actual images of the coin, the second legal size certificate I saw in Michigan did have photos attached.&nbsp; The first variety pictured above is dated March 17th, 1976 and numbered 3565.&nbsp; The second is August 15 1986 and numbered just slightly before the one posted earlier, 49296.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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