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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 25904969, member: 10461"]Let me repost that coin and its description. I was about to try to explain something to Randy about it, and ended up getting confused myself! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/8/F/fC263rMqmG5pd2HY9LRzw7aTKxo4g8.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Vespasian (AD 69-79) AR Denarius / Pax</b></p><p><b>Attribution:</b> RIC II 772 Rome</p><p><b>Date:</b> AD 75</p><p><b>Obverse:</b> IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right</p><p><b>Reverse:</b> PON MAX TR P COS VI, Pax seated left, holding olive branch</p><p><b>Size:</b> 18.42mm</p><p><b>Weight:</b> 3.29 grams</p><p><b>Description:</b> good Fine+</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>The detail that I was attempting to explain was (since Roman coins don't bear any direct "dates" on them like we're used to seeing on more "modern" coins), how this coin could be dated to one specific year: 75 AD.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was about to say the key was in the inscription, where it gives the tribunician (<b>TR P</b>) and consular (<b>COS VI</b>) titles of Vespasian; and how those can be used to determine the exact year a coin was minted. I was going from what's in the dealer description cited above.</p><p><br /></p><p>But then I looked at the <i>picture</i> again, and I noticed that the TR P and COS VI are in this case <i>missing</i>- they're not on the coin! Looks like those letters ended up mostly off the flan on the right side of the reverse (and what little portion of them that might have hit the flan was subsequently worn away).</p><p><br /></p><p>So how, if that is the case, would Marc Breitsprecher be able to determine that this coin had the TR P COS VI inscription? Is this a type that is only known with that particular legend?</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER] - would be nice to hear your opinion of this particular Vespasian (as a “starter” coin, anyway) and anything else you had to add, since you’re our resident Flavian Fanatic.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 25904969, member: 10461"]Let me repost that coin and its description. I was about to try to explain something to Randy about it, and ended up getting confused myself! :facepalm: [IMG]https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/8/F/fC263rMqmG5pd2HY9LRzw7aTKxo4g8.jpg[/IMG] [INDENT][B]Vespasian (AD 69-79) AR Denarius / Pax Attribution:[/B] RIC II 772 Rome [B]Date:[/B] AD 75 [B]Obverse:[/B] IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right [B]Reverse:[/B] PON MAX TR P COS VI, Pax seated left, holding olive branch [B]Size:[/B] 18.42mm [B]Weight:[/B] 3.29 grams [B]Description:[/B] good Fine+[/INDENT] The detail that I was attempting to explain was (since Roman coins don't bear any direct "dates" on them like we're used to seeing on more "modern" coins), how this coin could be dated to one specific year: 75 AD. I was about to say the key was in the inscription, where it gives the tribunician ([B]TR P[/B]) and consular ([B]COS VI[/B]) titles of Vespasian; and how those can be used to determine the exact year a coin was minted. I was going from what's in the dealer description cited above. But then I looked at the [I]picture[/I] again, and I noticed that the TR P and COS VI are in this case [I]missing[/I]- they're not on the coin! Looks like those letters ended up mostly off the flan on the right side of the reverse (and what little portion of them that might have hit the flan was subsequently worn away). So how, if that is the case, would Marc Breitsprecher be able to determine that this coin had the TR P COS VI inscription? Is this a type that is only known with that particular legend? [USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER] - would be nice to hear your opinion of this particular Vespasian (as a “starter” coin, anyway) and anything else you had to add, since you’re our resident Flavian Fanatic.[/QUOTE]
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