Please tell me I did good

BTW - Here is a close up of the date. I see nothing wrong with the 1914 and I see no evidence that there was a "VDB" removed from the bust. Any comments on the "D"?

 

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Wow, geez! Man, that seller is pretty decieving I would say. I would put it at VF, but with the harsh cleaning I would put it at a F-12 now. I'm sorry to see that's the end result. But I would return it to get your money back, and save a little more to get a nicer example. Coins like that make you just want to cry, lol. I'm sorry that that was the end result man. I'd say return it, but that's only my opinion.

Phoenix

 

rlm:
The cleaning aside, the D just looks too strong for the wear especially compared to the date.
Also, the dark area around the MM bothers me.
It may be a sign of heat from the 'application' of the MM.

Even if you keep it, I'd definately get it certified.

 

rlm,

I would say that you as well as all of us, were highly deceived by the Seller's pics! The pictures were apparently significantly PhotoShopped. The coin would probably grade VF-30 if it were not for the cleaning. Make sure that you keep copies of the Auction Listing and pictures of the coin, just in case you get into a tug-o-war with the Seller over a return and refund.


Frank

 

WOW !!!

As to the dark area around the mm, all genuine 14-D's, the mm sits in a depression like that, and tends to gather dirt.

That is a case for deceiving pics for sure, had us all fooled. Now....is it worth $360? Thats a toughie. A fair price for an uncleaned coin.

 

This coin would be returned if it were me. F-12 is my grade. It's in the mail "Priority Mail" by 7 am.


Rhubarb

 

i am gonna say vf-20 because the reverse is decent

 

What you say is true but there were alimited number of dies used to strike the 14-D cent and all the acceptable MM positions are well known. I don't have photos off hand, but it would be relatively simple to locate the known possible correct positions.

 

Doug, the date is ok, but the MM is not! It is too thin and the serifs aren't shaped correctly. The interior should be triangle shaped (it was the same MM punch used on the 16-d dime) and it isn't. This coin has been tooled to bring up a fake mm, and then cleaned to hide the evidence of the work.

I'd return it with notice to the seller that you believe it to be NG.

 

Here is another picture I took of the coin. It is not quite as sharp, but a slightly different view. Does this give you a different answer? I just want the best answer you can before I tell the seller that it is a fake. For what it is worth, I could not see those tails with my loop (8X).

 

Rlm...Here is the mm on mine

And, I don't think you have to tell the seller anything other than you don't want it. The pictures and cleaning alone is reason enough.

I would take the Trolls opinion in a minute myself

 

And here is my certified 1914-D.Dang it. It has been cleaned, but it is still a nice coin. Sorry, I have not yet figured lighting for slabs. But all it shows me is that there are differences both in dies and die wear.

 

looks like a fake mm to me, I would return it in a heartbeat

 

Which one are you referring to? The first one went back in the mail Thursday. However, if it really is fake, I want to let the seller know.

 

The one you sent back, it's a pretty thin mintmark compared to our genuines. I would let the seller know you are at least suspicious ( without blaming him ) that it is at least questionable.

I did not know that the same punch was used for the 16-D Merc, darn it, I just sold a slabbed Anacs last week. I would loved to have compared them side by side.

Later folks, getting tired, been a long day at this computer.

 

That is what I was waiting to hear before I informed the seller.

 

I don't know is this will help or not but on a genuine 1914-D cent there is a die crack
connecting the bust to the rim.

Lou

 

I think that I am seeing what you are talking about, but it is not on every coin. I can pick it up on about 3 of 15 on Heritage and it is on 1 of my 2. Both of mine have been certified. Is what you are talking about jsut about due south of the 9 in the date?