Please report on the bay, horrible counterfeit

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by goldrealmoney79, Sep 6, 2020.

  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Scroll to the bottom of listing to item specifics and you will find this. Only misleading thing is it should state it in the title, but then people should read it all before committing, or reacting
    • Material: Metal

    • Style: Antique Imitation

    • Technique: CASTING

    • Regional Feature: Europe

    • Year: 1880-1899

    • Theme: people
     
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  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It does not have "COPY" or "REPRODUCTION" on it so it is still illegal.

    Here is a genuine piece.

    1885-CC Dollar both.jpg

    Here is the fake in the OP post.

    1885-CC counter Sept all.jpg

    Blow up the photo of the fake, and you will see more of what's wrong with it. Unlike most counterfeit offerings, the photography was good.
     
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  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Agreed, you can see casting bubbles etc. Technically it is illegal, but, with the seller clearly stating it is a "metal", cast imitation, and the quality of the images showing the cast properties, the only "deceptive" part is the title. Those who don't get past the image and say wow an '85 Morgan, I want it, then the old adage A fool and his money etc. etc. is totally warranted. I know others will have different views, but this is my opinion
     
  6. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, and after the buyer has purchased it, he can ignore the fact that it's an unstamped counterfeit and sell it to person who does not know any better. It's hard to find a genuine 1885-CC dollar for less than $200.
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I should also post this picture of this "Franken-coin." As you can see it has "monster toning" too. :vamp: That will make it even more attractive to some poor sucker who is "a fool with his money."

    1885-CC counter Sept color all.jpg
     
  8. Malleus Maleficarum

    Malleus Maleficarum Well-Known Member

    Here's my problem with a "coin" like this. , this fake could be sold and lingering in collections for many generations to come. It could cause a lot of grief and anger to future collectors.

    Always read the description on an eBay auction. It's being sold as fake, yet it's still misleading if you don't read everything. Also look where the item is located. This fake coin is located in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka. That's a red flag. The seller has 6 transactions, none as a seller. Another reason to avoid.

    Things like this should have COPY stamped on them. Since this coin was manufactured by a foreign source, they just don't care. Our laws don't apply to them.
     
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  9. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    eBay policy does not allow counterfeit or "replica" coins even if they are marked COPY or even if the seller discloses they are not genuine.
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    And yet there it sat clearly labelled as an antique imitation in its description
     
  11. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    eBay employees do not look for coin selling policy violations.
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    They apparently don't look at reports, either, unless there are a lot of them, or unless they come from specific (non-public) sources.
     
  13. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Same old story. Policy is there to appease regulators, profit to satisfy shareholders.
    It is not a difficult thing for an IT dept to include filters looking for "fake, counterfeit, copy" etc. and these words would also flag up when someone reports something
     
  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Those are laughable fakes. But there’s one born every minute
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes that is their policy, the problem is getting them to enforce their "policy".
     
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