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<p>[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 3999266, member: 72790"]I am delighted to see this thread. A little while ago I went to a local coin store to sell these coins, coins which I have had for a few years but as my main field is now ancients I no longer have any need for these four coins. They were in a batch and the dealer bought some others, but he was pretty certain these were not genuine. None of the four is magnetic. I knew that long ago as I carry a magnet when purchasing to check for cupro-nickel fakes. The first 8 reales, dated 1735 weighs only 23.7 grams and should weigh about 27 grams. That was the tip off something was wrong here . The second 8 reales dated 1774 was also light at 25.9 but what convinced the dealer it was not genuine was the date, which seems to have been pressed into the coin, or so he observed. The two reales, dated 1742 is just light at 6.1 grams and should weigh 6.7 grams. The dealer told me that the Spanish were very accurate with the weights of their coins and it was unlikely they were genuine, He declined to buy them. The 1640 "Dog Dollar" from the Netherlands weighs 23.1 grams and it should weigh about 27.6 grams of .75 fineness silver. There does seem to be a chunk out of the coin so that might explain the lighter weight. Maybe. [ATTACH=full]1052973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1052974[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I post these here so that viewers can be aware of what might be fakes and perhaps they would care to makes comments on them[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 3999266, member: 72790"]I am delighted to see this thread. A little while ago I went to a local coin store to sell these coins, coins which I have had for a few years but as my main field is now ancients I no longer have any need for these four coins. They were in a batch and the dealer bought some others, but he was pretty certain these were not genuine. None of the four is magnetic. I knew that long ago as I carry a magnet when purchasing to check for cupro-nickel fakes. The first 8 reales, dated 1735 weighs only 23.7 grams and should weigh about 27 grams. That was the tip off something was wrong here . The second 8 reales dated 1774 was also light at 25.9 but what convinced the dealer it was not genuine was the date, which seems to have been pressed into the coin, or so he observed. The two reales, dated 1742 is just light at 6.1 grams and should weigh 6.7 grams. The dealer told me that the Spanish were very accurate with the weights of their coins and it was unlikely they were genuine, He declined to buy them. The 1640 "Dog Dollar" from the Netherlands weighs 23.1 grams and it should weigh about 27.6 grams of .75 fineness silver. There does seem to be a chunk out of the coin so that might explain the lighter weight. Maybe. [ATTACH=full]1052973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1052974[/ATTACH] I post these here so that viewers can be aware of what might be fakes and perhaps they would care to makes comments on them[/QUOTE]
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