Please post a Delmatius (Caesar 335-337)

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  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    My plea for help was answered very quickly last evening in identifying this coin from an uncleaned lot. VERY thankful for that.
    I have spent part of the day reading up on Constantine's unfortunate nephew and I am really interested to see better examples.

    Please post any coins of Delmatius you may have... I would really love to see them.
    Thank you!!


    Delmatius (Caesar 335-337)
    Obv: FLDELMATIVSNOBC
    Rev: GLOR IAEXERC ITVS
    Mint: Siscia
    RIC 239; LRBC 753; Cohen 13; Sear 16878.

    ..sorry about the pics...
    Del_Obv.jpg Del_Rev.jpg
     
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  3. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    ri205.jpg Delmatius
    Mint: Siscia
    337 AD
    Obvs: FL DELMATIVS NOB C, Bust laureate draped cuirass right.
    Revs: GLORIA EXERCITVS, Standard between two soldiers. BSIS*
    AE 17x18mm, 1.60g
    Ref: RIC VII 266
     
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  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Mine is also Siscia, but without the star. (About a third of the hits on acsearch are Siscia; looks like the 2nd officina looked after Delmatius.)

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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum

  6. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Amazing example.. great strike! Thank you
     
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  7. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Awesome obverse strike... bust and legend are fantastic.
     
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  8. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Really nice patina.. on the reverse I notice mine has the 2 standards and the others posted so far have the single standard..
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    Delmatiuschirho.jpg
    Delmatius, Caesar 335-337
    Struck 336
    16 mm. 1.31 grams. 6:00
    FL DELMATI-VS NOB CAES
    GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS
    Two soldiers either side of one standard with ch-rho on standard
    Mintmark: SCONST
    RIC Arles 398, page 277

    For a collector of "early Christian symbolism" on Roman coins, this one is special for the chi-rho at the mint of Constantina (= Arles). That chi-rho is common on coins of Constantine II and Constantius II, but Delmatius is scarcer overall and this variety is scarcer in proportion. The flan is large enough and the designs well-centered and the yellow-green patina is even and pleasing.

    If you are interested in Christian symbols on Roman coins, there are a number of sites including this one:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Christian/ChristianSymbols.html
     
  10. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Here's a nice two-tone job also from Siscia:

    delm01-mf10-sm.jpg


    But to break ranks, here's a similar example from Cyzicus:

    delm01-gz31-sm.jpg

    Tomorrow I'll come back with a few more from other mints, including some two standard examples.
     
  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    That is pretty wild, @lrbguy! Were you playing "roll it through the lemon juice" or something? ;)
     
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  12. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Here are a couple Delmatius GE reverses with 2 standards:

    Cyzicus <star>SMK<delta> delm01-gz69-sm.jpg


    Rome R<star>S
    delm01-mq50-sm.jpg


    Thessalonika single standard with his name spelled as DALMATIVS
    SMTS<delta>


    delm01-rb35-sm.jpg

    Thessalonika again, but with his name spelled DELMATIVS

    delm01-rb30-sm.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2018
  13. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The two tone one looks Jax'd.
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    The Dalmatius spelling is not an error but just to be expected from some mints.
    rw5800bb1829.jpg
     
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  16. Ryro

    Ryro "To the strongest!" Supporter

    They say some people get an underserved "bad rap". Well, Constantine and his boys get an underserved good rap. They committed atrocities that would make Nero and Caligula blush. Killing not just their uncle's, aunts, cousins etc. But even brothers killing brothers and fathers killing sons!
    Here is a recently acquired poor wretch from that lineage.
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    Delmatius
    AD 337. Cyzicus Follis Æ 15mm., 2,10g. FL
    IVL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped and
    cuirassed bust right / GLORIA EXERCITVS,
    two soldiers, each with spear and shield, standing
    facing one another, one standard between them,
    SMKAinexergue.nearlyveryfine RIC 131
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    I am not an LRB guy... so these are my only two:

    RI Delmatius 335-337 CE Quarter Folles CHI RHO banner flanked by 2 soldiers Sear 3131 Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Delmatius 335-337 CE Quarter Folles CHI RHO banner flanked by 2 soldiers Sear 3131

    RI Delmatius 335-337 CE Quarter Folles CHI RHO banner flanked by 2 soldiers Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Delmatius 335-337 CE Quarter Folles CHI RHO banner flanked by 2 soldiers
     
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  18. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Not sure what Jax'd means, but I can't take "credit" for this since it came to me this way. Not sure what happened to it, but on a hunch I'm guessing it spent some time in a jewelry holder, as the center of a necklace or something, surrounded by a ring of metal after it had been stripped by overcleaning. The surface is worn a bit, but still not bad. We adopt rescue dogs, and this one is kind of like that. Good boy.
     
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  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

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  20. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter in hoc signo vinces

    Here's my Delmatius - it's got a nice dark patina...

    delmatius1.jpg

    delmatius2.jpg
     
  21. PipersSpring

    PipersSpring Celeste Jones Mining Dealer

    This was a beauty, but I lost $40 when I sold it at auction.
     

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