Please, please guess the grade?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by coinfreak, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. coinfreak

    coinfreak New Member

    First of all let me please say I read this forum at least twice daily and I have learned so much in the past 6 months. Thanks to all.

    I also apologize for getting intoxicated and making unrealistic predictions concerning gold that never came true although I am still very bullish.

    Check out this coin I bought. I am thinking I bought the slab grade and not the coin. I will let you know what grade it is later on. Of all of the Pre-1933 gold coins I have bought (6) I feel this one I may have like I said bought the slab and not the coin.

    Thanks for letting me post again. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. coinfreak

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    Sorry file size was too big the first time here is the pic.

    Many Thanks! :D
     

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  4. Ed Zak

    Ed Zak New Member

    Golds not my bag, but I would go with EF45 to AU55. Have to look closer to pin point it.
     
  5. coinfreak

    coinfreak New Member


    Thanks its MS-63 from PCGS. Paid a small fortune for it from one of the top Coin dealers in the country.

    Cant name may get sued :mad:
     
  6. Ed Zak

    Ed Zak New Member

    Wow!?! The face looks worn, as well as other features and they still graded it MS? Also there are some blemishes as well. Maybe it is the slab. Oh well, I guess I will not try to grade golds anymore.
     
  7. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    You should have waited for a little while to post the actual grade ;) Anyway, it looks to me like there is slight rub on the obverse. That may just be the picture and it is much more difficult to get a good picture of a slabbed coin. From the pictures, I would have said AU55.
     
  8. pcrdnadave

    pcrdnadave Senior Member

    I was trying to decide between either MS64 or AU58 before I saw the posted graded. For me, the hardest grades to tell apart are high grade circulated vs MS whatever.

    I think it is uncirculated. The fields show no signs of breaks in the luster and the chest area of Lady Liberty shows typical bag marks.

    I'm curious if you bought it sight unseen or if it was one you picked out. This would be the type of coin I would only buy "sight seen" or with VERY good scans.
     
  9. coinfreak

    coinfreak New Member


    Thanks for the reply. I bought it online so I was able to view it.

    I am so excited that you have some positive new here. First you see the fields show no signs of breaks in the luster and the chest area :D

    Also those bag marks do not take away from the coin because it can still be uncirculated right? :confused:

    Thanks again for the info.
     
  10. cdb1950

    cdb1950 Senior Member

    I like MS64
     
  11. coinfreak

    coinfreak New Member


    Sorry to all for posting grade immaturely.

    I am learning.

    Super on the MS-64, I have to celebrate!! :D
     
  12. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    The bag marks do not detract from the coin as being an MS coin. From the pictures, I thought the rub on the obverse was wear; apparently it was bag rub which does not make the coin AU. Also, it is hard to grade (gold especially) from a pic. I prefer to see gold coins in hand to grade them.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well folks I gotta tell ya - I don't think I'd grade that coin as MS. Even if the pics are bad - it appears to have wear.

    Now I know a lot of folks put a lot of faith the grading companies - in particular PCGS. But just this weekend I saw a 1907 St. Gaudens slabbed by PCGS as MS62 that had - Cleaned & Ex- Jewelry - right on the slab.

    That kinda says it all in my opinion :(
     
  14. jody526

    jody526 New Member

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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Geeeeez Jody - I thought for sure you'd faint dead away after hearing me say that :D

    And here ya actually managed to come up with THAT :eek:

    You been takin lessons from Roy again ? :D :D
     
  16. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I suppose I could do worse things. :D
     
  17. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    what are ms69 05 eagles going for, some guy on ebay selling for 21 usd each,there at the graders giving when he gets them back.ngc?

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  18. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    21 usd seemed cheap to me for a slabbed coin?
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Look on ebay and see - just check realized prices.
     
  20. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Is this guy making sales or asking for that much? Who is the grading company?
     
  21. ccgnum

    ccgnum New Member

    Back to the original question, if I was offered it and interested, I wouldn't buy it due to obverse problems.
     
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