Please help to verify coins

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Rontay44, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    Hi,

    Recently found some coins , don't know if they are real.
    Anyone can help to verify ?

    Please check out the attach photo.

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    looks Chinese or Japanese. did you weigh it ?
     
  4. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    I did a search and is " yen Meiji year 3" I don't have a scale to weight it.
    But normally for a real coins what is the weight ?
     
  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I am not finding it in my catalog books. hmmm maybe another member on CT can tell you m,ore. sorry.
     
  6. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Usually when you "find" some coins, the authenticity is questionable.:)
     
  7. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    Oh... Thanks for your help
     
  8. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    I think it reads Japan Meiji Yr 3 (1870) & 1 Yen, but I don't recognize the cross flag design
     
  9. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    The crossed flags are from some Chinese coins of the early republic, what you have is probably what is commonly called a "fantasy" piece, the front is a Japanese Yen, the rear looks like a mash up of a Chinese (the crossed flags) and Japanese (the chrysanthemum) designs.
     
  10. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Maybe it's one of those "Manchukuo" coins?

    If gxseries were here, we'd find out.
     
  11. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    1870 is way too early for Manchukuo, that was not founded until 1932.
     
  12. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Nope, although the crossed flag motif does appear on some coins of the Chinese areas under Japanese occupation in the 1930-40s.

    One side is a close variant of the 1 yen coin circulated from 1874-1914. The real ones didn't have the Japanese characters for the denomination on the obverse, instead having the English inscription "416 . ONE YEN . 900", to indicate grains of silver, value, and fineness. The Meiji 3 date equates to 1870, four years before the basic design was adopted.

    The outer circle surrounding the flags is a reasonably close copy of the outer perimeter of the reverse on the first silver yen ever produced, which was dated Meiji 3.
     
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  13. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Oh snap.

    My poor brain!
     
  14. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    so.... it was a "fantasy" piece? or
     
  15. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    Guys... i do have a few more coins.. here,

    Front Back
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  16. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    Hotonai..

    I do have a coin "Meiji 17" with "416 . ONE YEN . 900" on it.

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  17. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Some version of the crossed flags is found on Japanese coins, for example early Meiji gold pieces such as this http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15185.html

    But yes the piece in the first post is a modern fantasy. It is listed in "Unusual World Coins" under Japan as X# 15.

    The rest of the pieces are modern copies and are some of the most commonly seen types too.
     
  18. Rontay44

    Rontay44 New Member

    Hey... thanks everyone for helping.
    learn quite abit in here~

    Thanks again
     
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