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<p>[QUOTE="Ian, post: 25823, member: 283"]First, my apologies for the length of this post. falling asleep before reaching the end would be understandable. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Slight lightening of coins on the highest point is often referred to (sometimes erroneously but not always) as `cabinet friction'. That is, that a coin becomes worn..... ever so slightly.... through the action of sliding loosely on coin trays as they are moved in and out of their old style mahogany cabinets. On many occasions what has been seen as `friction damage' is actually the exact opposite in that the `high points' are lighter due to their having been protected from the effects of long term toning (due to direct contact with the tray).</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not so sure about your concerns re Lindner tray insets causing any toning problems. I fully understand why you would be cautious though, having seen what happened with the Japanese product. I would be too! I can only say that i've not seen any of my coins tone as a result of their exposure to Lindner trays. I've used them since 1997. </p><p><br /></p><p>My own use of these trays in relation to `ancients in the raw' is in the form of a stack of trays positioned on a shelf. It's a `static' feature. Sure, I move the trays out occasionally to look at my coins, but *always* with due care. The amount of `friction' involved is pretty well negligible and to be honest, I haven't seen any of my coins exhibit signs of wear through such activity over the past seven years or so. That does not mean I am being dismissive of your concern, but rather I would argue that potential damage can nigh on be eliminated just by recognising that potential and exercising due care and attention.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also make use of Lindner trays for storage /display of dollar size silver proof coins. I always keep these in coin capsules (most are usually sold in such capsules). That way you get the best of both worlds, ie displaying the coin in the capsule on the tray (no friction damage possibility and extremely low risk of `toning'.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me the biggest single risk to storing coins `in the raw' in Lindner trays comes from unforseen events such as having a spontaneous coughing or sneezing fit when you are looking lovingly over your coins. It sounds funny ...and improbable...until it happens to you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>These trays are by no means a `perfect' solution. They are however a relatively cost effective alternative to storing your coins in products made with or from pvc. At least trays prevent damage to coins from that particular source. There are other alternative storage solutions but usually much more expensive, and bringing with them their own particular problems. If you want to be able to hold ancient coins (and I think you should...obviously exercising due care) then slabs and such like are not the eway to go. If picking up and studying the coins from all angles, feeling the weight and texture of the coin is not important to the collector and `preservation' is the key objective, then slabbing is probably the way to go. </p><p> </p><p>Ian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ian, post: 25823, member: 283"]First, my apologies for the length of this post. falling asleep before reaching the end would be understandable. :-) Slight lightening of coins on the highest point is often referred to (sometimes erroneously but not always) as `cabinet friction'. That is, that a coin becomes worn..... ever so slightly.... through the action of sliding loosely on coin trays as they are moved in and out of their old style mahogany cabinets. On many occasions what has been seen as `friction damage' is actually the exact opposite in that the `high points' are lighter due to their having been protected from the effects of long term toning (due to direct contact with the tray). I'm not so sure about your concerns re Lindner tray insets causing any toning problems. I fully understand why you would be cautious though, having seen what happened with the Japanese product. I would be too! I can only say that i've not seen any of my coins tone as a result of their exposure to Lindner trays. I've used them since 1997. My own use of these trays in relation to `ancients in the raw' is in the form of a stack of trays positioned on a shelf. It's a `static' feature. Sure, I move the trays out occasionally to look at my coins, but *always* with due care. The amount of `friction' involved is pretty well negligible and to be honest, I haven't seen any of my coins exhibit signs of wear through such activity over the past seven years or so. That does not mean I am being dismissive of your concern, but rather I would argue that potential damage can nigh on be eliminated just by recognising that potential and exercising due care and attention. I also make use of Lindner trays for storage /display of dollar size silver proof coins. I always keep these in coin capsules (most are usually sold in such capsules). That way you get the best of both worlds, ie displaying the coin in the capsule on the tray (no friction damage possibility and extremely low risk of `toning'. To me the biggest single risk to storing coins `in the raw' in Lindner trays comes from unforseen events such as having a spontaneous coughing or sneezing fit when you are looking lovingly over your coins. It sounds funny ...and improbable...until it happens to you :-) These trays are by no means a `perfect' solution. They are however a relatively cost effective alternative to storing your coins in products made with or from pvc. At least trays prevent damage to coins from that particular source. There are other alternative storage solutions but usually much more expensive, and bringing with them their own particular problems. If you want to be able to hold ancient coins (and I think you should...obviously exercising due care) then slabs and such like are not the eway to go. If picking up and studying the coins from all angles, feeling the weight and texture of the coin is not important to the collector and `preservation' is the key objective, then slabbing is probably the way to go. Ian[/QUOTE]
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