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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2050225, member: 112&quot;]Don&#039;t know that I even want to get into this, probably shouldn&#039;t, but what the heck never stopped me before.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conder&#039;s point is that carboni is stuck because of what he did, he removed the coin from its original holder and sent it to a TPG to be graded. That&#039;s it, and yes that is absolutely the accepted practice in numismatics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now did the seller do something wrong ? Of course he did. What he did was reprehensible, just downright wrong. And I agree wholeheartedly that not only should refund the man&#039;s money, and I mean all of it, he should be punished for it as well. But will he, or will he be ? Not likely.</p><p><br /></p><p>But carnboni did something wrong too. First of all he bought a coin from the guy. And had even asked if he should buy a coin, any coin, from the guy, he woulda been told no, and told by several people. Because that seller that is well known. And as I mentioned in my previous post there is a long list of very unhappy buyers, for various reasons. The second thing he did wrong was to buy a coin, any coin, in that holder. Just about anybody, everybody, knows better than to buy coins in those holders. And if asked he would have been told that too. So why did he do it ? He&#039;ll have to answer that himself.</p><p><br /></p><p>And carboni I&#039;m not picking on you, I truly feel bad for you and would like to hang the guy. But what I am saying is true. You made a couple of mistakes, actually 3 but the first two are enough. And we all make mistakes, lord knows I&#039;ve made my share. And when we make mistakes, we are almost always the ones who pay for them. Do I like that ? No. Do I wish it could be stopped ? Absolutely. But at the same time we all have to acknowledge our own responsibility for our own actions when such things happen. For we are the ones who have the last chance to avoid the whole thing. It could never happen at all unless we step forward and say - I&#039;m gonna do this. And by doing that, we have to blame ourselves just as much as we blame the other guy.</p><p><br /></p><p>The lesson here for everybody is don&#039;t buy coins unless you do your homework, all of your homework. Ask questions BEFORE you buy coins, not after you buy them. There are dozens, scores of people on this forum who would love to help, and will at the drop of a hat. And if you make mistakes we&#039;ll all feel bad right along with you, and feel just as bad as you do because we&#039;ve all done it before ourselves. So we know what it feels like. </p><p><br /></p><p>And the worst thing of all, the thing that hurts the most, is that we know in our hearts it&#039;s our own faults and we are truly mad at ourselves. Oh we&#039;ll still hate the bad guy, want to hang him from a tree. That part will never change.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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