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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2553681, member: 19463"]This post has been an eye opener for me. I expected many people to catch it like Martin did. It proved several things. First, it showed that it is dangerous o look too closely and rely too much on magnifiers and microscopes. If I had asked the same question showing the entire coins would it have been better? I attach the full images of the other three coins below but will leave them as thumbs so you can decide if you want to click on them or not. Below them is the answer. Read if and when you wish.</p><p>[ATTACH]549075[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]549076[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]549077[/ATTACH] </p><p>The coin in image #3 is Rome mint of Septimius Severus and is the highest grade portrait coin of his that I have. I regret the reverse centering but I definitely would not have afforded it were the reverse as nice as the obverse. </p><p><br /></p><p>The other three coins were cut by the same artist working in a mint located in what we now call Bulgaria. His name is Slavey Petrov, a faker of fame in the 1990's. His coins were struck from hand cut dies in a style that is just plain wrong for the coins he copies. His coins were struck in silver salvaged, I am told, from old European coins. They are all in the same style as each other so his copy of the Pescennius Niger (#5 and #6) from the East is too similar to his Rome mint Pertinax (#4 and #1). <i>The answer here is #3 was the only genuine coin shown; the rest are modern fakes.</i> They are not high tech deceptive fakes but they are the sort of thing appropriate for sale in gift shops. Slavey claimed he did not work to cheat people but to make things for collectors who could not afford the real ones. He copied only rare coins. The Septimius here is rarest of the bunch with lion skin bust (Martin called it cuirass which is stretching the point). Harvard has an aureus with the lion.</p><p><a href="http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/art/195903" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/art/195903" rel="nofollow">http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/art/195903</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The Pescennius is most frequently seen offered as real and i the worst of his products. The style is wrong (too good), the metal is wrong (too pure) and the fabric is wrong (too thin). I paid $4 each for these back in the early 1990's. There are currently openly identified examples for $12-$20 meaning the rate of return on my investment in these mint state beauties is greater than any of my real coins from that period. Coin #3 cost me $150 in 1994 so a 4-5x increase would make it have to be worth $600-$750 to have kept up. Is it? Was it then? These are the questions that make the hobby as we know it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2553681, member: 19463"]This post has been an eye opener for me. I expected many people to catch it like Martin did. It proved several things. First, it showed that it is dangerous o look too closely and rely too much on magnifiers and microscopes. If I had asked the same question showing the entire coins would it have been better? I attach the full images of the other three coins below but will leave them as thumbs so you can decide if you want to click on them or not. Below them is the answer. Read if and when you wish. [ATTACH]549075[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]549076[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]549077[/ATTACH] The coin in image #3 is Rome mint of Septimius Severus and is the highest grade portrait coin of his that I have. I regret the reverse centering but I definitely would not have afforded it were the reverse as nice as the obverse. The other three coins were cut by the same artist working in a mint located in what we now call Bulgaria. His name is Slavey Petrov, a faker of fame in the 1990's. His coins were struck from hand cut dies in a style that is just plain wrong for the coins he copies. His coins were struck in silver salvaged, I am told, from old European coins. They are all in the same style as each other so his copy of the Pescennius Niger (#5 and #6) from the East is too similar to his Rome mint Pertinax (#4 and #1). [I]The answer here is #3 was the only genuine coin shown; the rest are modern fakes.[/I] They are not high tech deceptive fakes but they are the sort of thing appropriate for sale in gift shops. Slavey claimed he did not work to cheat people but to make things for collectors who could not afford the real ones. He copied only rare coins. The Septimius here is rarest of the bunch with lion skin bust (Martin called it cuirass which is stretching the point). Harvard has an aureus with the lion. [url]http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/art/195903[/url] The Pescennius is most frequently seen offered as real and i the worst of his products. The style is wrong (too good), the metal is wrong (too pure) and the fabric is wrong (too thin). I paid $4 each for these back in the early 1990's. There are currently openly identified examples for $12-$20 meaning the rate of return on my investment in these mint state beauties is greater than any of my real coins from that period. Coin #3 cost me $150 in 1994 so a 4-5x increase would make it have to be worth $600-$750 to have kept up. Is it? Was it then? These are the questions that make the hobby as we know it.[/QUOTE]
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