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<p>[QUOTE="silentnviolent, post: 1513246, member: 8797"]Try taking pics in a courtroom. I hope you are kidding.... Seatbelt laws are for revenue supplement, plain and simple. If you really think the government put that in place solely to save lives, I dunno bout you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> As far as HOW I beat them, it was done based on specific circumstances on each occurance. And I represented myself. You know, nobody works harder for you, than YOU. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> By 'modern cents' do you mean today's modern cents, or what was considered modern at the time of half cent discontinuation? I concede that systematic price changes may not occur. But then what? A person who pays with cash must either buy items that come out to the current lowest denomination or forfeit the few cents they should have gotten in change. I learned early on that 'pennies make dollars' and it still holds true today.</p><p>Or, as mentioned, pay by credit/debit, which would appear to be the only way to not lose money in many transactions. What an incentive for people to become cardholders! </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So above, you say that when half cents were discontinued, they were worth 11 - 12 'modern cents' but that inflation is a separate process?</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This happened when they followed this example: "The key is that we need our circulating money to reflect what things are *worth*; not believe that our coins will influence it the other way around"</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'll ask a few friends who will know for sure, but is that on all army bases? Even stateside? I expect rounding to occur in army bases outside the US. Interesting. I'm more inclined to believe that bases within our borders still use every form of currency at their disposal.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> I disagree. Aluminum was toyed with for pennies in 1974, and over a million specimens were struck (also in 1975, though very few) for inspection. If this were revisited, it may get more traction in today's US. Distribution itself could be revamped as well. Start up the money train! Ain't no bandits gonna heist that one! </p><p><br /></p><p>And if this fantasy were to occur, and dollar coins were all there was, you must also take into account the increase in shipping/labor they would incur. Viable? Only if the two fantasies collide and the dollar bills disappear simultaneously with cents (nickels too, why not?) will the savings from the one even out with the increase in cost of the other. No real money is saved on this piddly issue. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> Me too! I'd have more money overall then <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Which I would take to the bank and get a box of pennies to roll search; the rest in one dollar foldin' money <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What else does that crystal ball tell you? I'd like the next Powerball numbers, please <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Again, remember that larger numbers on bills equates to inflation; which appears to be the route you are recommending. Remember? Zimbabwe, yada yada yada. I'd like to think that the US can get along without looking to other nations, especially on this issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is the mere <i>allusion</i> to inflation that would accompany such drastic and unneccesary eliminations, that would scare the public and ultimately stop the motion before it ever got momentum. Forcing these kinds of changes on every American's everyday life leads to protests and unrest, when there are more important things to worry about.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="silentnviolent, post: 1513246, member: 8797"]Try taking pics in a courtroom. I hope you are kidding.... Seatbelt laws are for revenue supplement, plain and simple. If you really think the government put that in place solely to save lives, I dunno bout you ;) As far as HOW I beat them, it was done based on specific circumstances on each occurance. And I represented myself. You know, nobody works harder for you, than YOU. ;) By 'modern cents' do you mean today's modern cents, or what was considered modern at the time of half cent discontinuation? I concede that systematic price changes may not occur. But then what? A person who pays with cash must either buy items that come out to the current lowest denomination or forfeit the few cents they should have gotten in change. I learned early on that 'pennies make dollars' and it still holds true today. Or, as mentioned, pay by credit/debit, which would appear to be the only way to not lose money in many transactions. What an incentive for people to become cardholders! So above, you say that when half cents were discontinued, they were worth 11 - 12 'modern cents' but that inflation is a separate process? This happened when they followed this example: "The key is that we need our circulating money to reflect what things are *worth*; not believe that our coins will influence it the other way around" I'll ask a few friends who will know for sure, but is that on all army bases? Even stateside? I expect rounding to occur in army bases outside the US. Interesting. I'm more inclined to believe that bases within our borders still use every form of currency at their disposal. I disagree. Aluminum was toyed with for pennies in 1974, and over a million specimens were struck (also in 1975, though very few) for inspection. If this were revisited, it may get more traction in today's US. Distribution itself could be revamped as well. Start up the money train! Ain't no bandits gonna heist that one! And if this fantasy were to occur, and dollar coins were all there was, you must also take into account the increase in shipping/labor they would incur. Viable? Only if the two fantasies collide and the dollar bills disappear simultaneously with cents (nickels too, why not?) will the savings from the one even out with the increase in cost of the other. No real money is saved on this piddly issue. Me too! I'd have more money overall then :) Which I would take to the bank and get a box of pennies to roll search; the rest in one dollar foldin' money :) What else does that crystal ball tell you? I'd like the next Powerball numbers, please ;) Again, remember that larger numbers on bills equates to inflation; which appears to be the route you are recommending. Remember? Zimbabwe, yada yada yada. I'd like to think that the US can get along without looking to other nations, especially on this issue. It is the mere [I]allusion[/I] to inflation that would accompany such drastic and unneccesary eliminations, that would scare the public and ultimately stop the motion before it ever got momentum. Forcing these kinds of changes on every American's everyday life leads to protests and unrest, when there are more important things to worry about.[/QUOTE]
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