Pinpoint ID on Nemasaus COL NEM dupondius

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  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    This COL NEM halved dupondius has been in my collection since February 2019, and has been posted here before. I've recently found out that there are different COL NEM dupondi, but I'm not quite able to fully ID mine. So here's the coin:
    Agrippa (COL NEM).jpg
    ROMAN PROVINCIAL, Agrippa and Augustus
    Denomination: AE dupondius (halved), minted: Colonia Nemausus (current Nimes, France); 10-14 AD
    Obv: IMP DIVI F. Back-to-back heads of Agrippa, wearing rostral crown, and Augustus, bare (cut off).
    Rev: COL NEM. Palm shoot, crocodile before, two wreaths with long ties trailing above palm tip
    Weight: 3.99g; Ø:1.4mm
    Catalogue: uncertain
    Provenance: Ex private collection; acq.: 02-2019

    The teeth of the crocodile are pointing upwards (both the lower and upper jaw). I know this is a discerning feature, but am unable to find a similar coin. Any help is appreciated!
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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  4. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks @TIF, those are similar (and beautiful!) types indeed.
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The best up-teeth come on the early coins where Augustus is bare headed rather than the later, laureate versions.
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The teeth on mine are more anatomically correct than the rendition of the croc's legs.

    Augustus and Agrippa Nemausus Crocodile.jpg
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Just a regular 'ol croc with T-Rex legs...

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    RI Augustus oak crown Agrippa rostral crown L AE Dupondius 26mm 12.6g 10-14CE Nemausus chained Croc snake wreaths RIC I 158

     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I would love to upgrade:
    Augustus 17.jpg
     
  9. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Fascinating, these Dupondii of Nemausus and I don't think I have ever seen a coin so likely to be halved like this. This may explain why the coin is often referred to as a Dupondius as one half would be an As which for most people was the equivalent of a Dollar or Euro, the most common coin for the average shopper in the marketplace.
     
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  10. Archeocultura

    Archeocultura Well-Known Member

    RIC 160 3a-nr14 Augustus RIC 160 (2).jpg
    The scratches were made during the preparation of the flan; they are not damage. You often see this with these coins.

    Frans
     
  11. Archeocultura

    Archeocultura Well-Known Member

    snapshot from RIC for all the different coins and another example of a weakly struck example with file scratches.

    Frans RIC Nemausus.jpg ric 160 example scratches on flan.jpg
     
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  12. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks all for the detailed replies!
     
  13. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Love these coins! And great, now I NEED one with snout teeth.
    Here's what I do have
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Cucumbor has an incredible halved Dupondius... one side Augustus, one side the full croc! Cuke has a wowzer!
     
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  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Does that mean I have to post mine ?

    :)

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  16. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    I love crocs, they're so cute. :p

    Here's mine, he's got fur and is blind. Agrippa has had it pretty rough:

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    Erin
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    So, he is the RARE breed of the Blind-Snuggler-Croc. :D
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