Picked up three Iberian/ Provisional coins

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  1. bcuda

    bcuda Supporter! Supporter

    Yesterday I missed out on all the coins I bid on. Today I won all the coins I bid on.

    I love almost any ancient coin from Spain and all three of these fit that category.

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    Spain, Corduba Æ Quadrans. Circa 2nd century BC. Head of Venus right; CN IVLI L F Q before / Eros standing facing, head left, holding cornucopiae and torch; [CORDVBA] to right. ACIP 2484; CNH 1. 9.76g, 20mm, 6h.


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    Spain, Sekaisa Æ Unit. Circa 150-100 BC. Bare male head right, wearing beaded necklace; dolphin before, Iberian 'SE' behind / Warrior on horseback right, holding spear; Iberian 'SEKAISA' in exergue. ACIP 1544; CNH 24. 20.84g, 30mm, 7h.

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    Tiberius Æ As of Italica, Spain. AD 14-37. TI CAESAR AVGVSTVS PONT MAX IMP, bare head right / MVNIC ITALIC PERM DIVI AVG, altar inscribed PROVIDENTIAE AVGVSTI in three lines. ACIP 3333; RPC I 65; SNG Copenhagen 417. 13.18g, 29mm, 10h.

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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Very nice Iberians!!

    I just picked up this one, delivery yesterday... It's much nicer in hand than I expected. It was hard to photograph, so I've included it from many angles.

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    Punic Iberia, Circa 237-209 BC
    AE Fifth Unit, Carthago Nova mint

    Obverse: Male head left (Scipio Africanus??)
    Reverse: Head of horse right
    References: MHC 283; Robinson, Punic, Series 8, d; ACIP 610
     
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  4. bcuda

    bcuda Supporter! Supporter

    @Justin Lee I have been looking for that coin and yours is a nice one !
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    You obviously have a keen eye for nice bronze.
     
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  6. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats bcuda , great additions.

    2 of my favorite Iberian coins:

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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Augustus coins all struck at Spanish mints: Augustus 3.jpg
    AUGUSTUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR AVGVSTVS - Bare head right
    REVERSE: OB/CIVIS/ SERVATOS - Legend in three lines within oak-wreath, ties inward
    Colonia Patricia mint 19 BC
    3.3g, 17mm
    RIC 77A, C208
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    AUGUSTUS
    Æ 31 Dupondius
    OBVERSE: PERMISSV CAESARIS AVGVSTI, bare head left
    REVERSE: COLONIA PATRICIA, aquila between legionary standards
    Colonia Patricia (Cordoba - spain) 15-14 BC
    18g, 31 mm
    RPC 128, SNG Cop 464

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    AUGUSTUS
    Æ 25 As
    OBVERSE: PERM CAES AVG, laureate head left
    REVERSE: COLONIA PATRICIA in two lines in wreath
    Colonia Patricia (Cordoba - spain) 19/18-2 BC
    8.07g, 24 mm
    RPC 129

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    AUGUSTUS
    Æ Semis
    OBVERSE: AVGVSTVS DIVI·F, Laureate head right
    REVERSE: Q. PAPIR . CAR . Q.TER.MONT.II.VIR.Q., Hexastyle temple with IVNONI inscribed on the entablature, C I IL A among the columns of the temple
    Ilici (Elche - Spain) After 12 BC
    4.9g, 21 mm
    RPC I 192; SNG Copenhagen 507

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    AUGUSTUS
    AE Semis
    OBVERSE: PERM CAES AVG, bare head left
    REVERSE: COLONIA PATRICIA, apex & simpulum
    Colonia Patricia (Cordoba - spain)
    19/18-2 B.C
    4.08g, 20 mm
    RPC 130
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    IBERIA

    Iberia Castulo Late 2nd C BC AE As 25mm Bust Nose Hand Sphinx.jpg
    Iberia Castulo Late 2nd C BC AE As 25mm Bust Nose Hand Sphinx


    Carthage Iberia 218-208 BC AE 13 1-4 Calco Barcid Military Mint 2nd Punic War Tanit Helmet.jpg
    Carthage Iberia 218-208 BC AE 13, 1/4 Calco Barcid Military Mint 2nd Punic War Tanit Helmet


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    Iberia - Castulo AE14 Quarter Unit Bust - BOAR w-star 2nd C BCE
     
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  9. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Hey bcuda

    Great pickups

    Here are a few.

    Two from Carteia
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    Carteia Q.PEDECAI.jpg


    Two fom Castulo
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    Ursone
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    Celse
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Great pickups, @bcuda ... I really like that Quadrans!

    Spain


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    RImp Spain Lepida-Clesa Lepidus 44-36BCE C Balbus L Porcius Colonia Victrix Ivlia Lepida Victory - Bull holed RPI 262 plate 19


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    RI Augustus 27 BCE-14CE AE As or Semis Spain Celsa Mint 29mm 5.0g Laureate Augustus - Bull RPC271 Cut in ancient times to make change
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I forgot this one struck in a Spanish mint:
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    AUGUSTUS (OCTAVIAN)
    AE Dupondius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR DIVI F, bare head of Octavian right
    REVERSE: DIVOS IVLIVS, wreathed head of Julius Caesar right
    Gallic or Italian mint 38 BC
    30mm; 17.90 g
    CR535/v1, RPC620v
     
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  12. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Thanks!

    And this one just came too...
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    Punic Iberia. Carthago Nova Æ 1/5 Unit
    Attribution: ACIP 590; SNG BM Spain –; Viola 279
    Date: 237-209 BC
    Obverse: Wreathed head of Tanit right
    Reverse: Horse's head left
    Size: 13.66 mm
    Weight: 1.59 grams
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    AWESOME! Justin Lee




    Carthago Nova Scipio 209-206 BCE AE 14 Horse Head RARE.jpg
    Roman Republic
    Bronze 1/5 unit,
    1.606g, maximum diameter 14.6mm, die axis 0o
    Carthago Nova mint, weight , 209 - 206 B.C.
    Obv: bare male head (Scipio Africanus?) left
    Rev: horse head right
    Ref: SNG BM Spain 129, Burgos 556
    VF, rough,
    rare
    Ex: Joe Sermarini, Ancient Forum Coins
    Comment: In order to force Hannibal to retreat from Italy, Scipio Africanus attacked Carthaginian Spain and took Carthago Nova in 209 B.C. References most often identify this type as Punic, struck before 209 B.C., but they also note that the head is "Roman style." Some authorities believe, as we do, that this type was struck after 209, under Roman rule. Carthaginian coins sometimes depicted Barcid generals. This coin possibly depicts the Roman general Scipio Africanus.

    The Carthaginian city of Carthago Nova produced a remarkable series of coins in silver and bronze for the Barcid rulers of Spain in the years leading up to the Second Punic War (218-202 BC). The male heads shown on these issues are often interpreted as "disguised" portraits of the Barcids themselves, including Hamilcar, Hasdrubal, and Hannibal, in various incarnations of the Phoenician demigod Melqart. The distinctive features of these portraits lend credence to the theory, though it is not universally believed, and even those who accept the "disguised portrait" theory disagree over which Barcid is depicted on which issues. Carthago Nova fell to the brilliant young Roman commander P. Cornelius Scipio (later Africanus) in 209 BC, and around this time a very distinctive head, with a close-cropped "Roman" haircut and youthful features, suddenly appears on the civic coinage, replacing the previous "Barcid" effigies. This head is quite likely that of Scipio himself. It would have been natural for the Punic celators to switch to a portrayal of the current ruling authority, Roman though he be, and the rarity of the issue in both silver and bronze attests to a brief period of issue, before the Roman Senate quashed any notion of a living person (a youthful upstart at that) being depicted on circulating coinage, albeit outside Rome itself.


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    Carthago Nova SCIPIO Africanus Roman Occupation 209-206 BCE Sear Vol2 6575 Left R
     
  14. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    More or less related question: how do you distinguish between Iberian and Celtibirian coins?

    I've owned a few Iberian/Celtiberians, but the distinction is not quite clear to me.
     
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  15. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Good question.

    I think that a lot of times the term 'Iberian" is used in a general way referring to any coin from the Iberian peninsula (Spain).

    Actually, the whole place had a complex history with many languages and cultures.

    This map may help a bit. And a pdf that is quite informative. pre-roman iberia.jpg
     

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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Appreciate the map. Thanks
     
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  17. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Indeed: rather complex but certainly interesting!
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Probably Imitatitve Semis Minted in Spain during Punic War Period

    RR Anon AE Semis 211-207 BC Saturn S Prow ROMA S 766 Cr 56-3.jpg
    RR Anon AE Semis 211-207 BCE Saturn S Prow ROMA Sear 766 Craw 56-3
     
  19. bcuda

    bcuda Supporter! Supporter

    I did not know the answer to your question so I looked around some. Here is a copy and paste with a vague answer to your question.

    Iberian, Spanish Ibero, one of a prehistoric people of southern and eastern Spain who later gave their name to the whole peninsula. The waves of migrating Celtic peoples from the 8th to 6th century bc onward settled heavily in northern and central Spain, penetrated Portugal and Galicia, but left the indigenous Bronze Age Iberian people of the south and east intact. Greek geographers give the name Iberian, probably connected with that of the Ebro (Iberus) River, to tribes settled on the southeastern coast, but, by the time of the Greek historian Herodotus (mid-5th century bc), it applied to all the peoples between the Ebro and Huelva rivers, who were probably linguistically connected and whose material culture was distinct from that of the north and west. There were, however, areas of overlap between the Iberian and Celtic peoples, as in the Celtiberian tribes of the northeastern Meseta Central and in Catalonia and Aragon.
     
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  20. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    I'll throw a couple more in the mix:

    (anyone know what the DD stands for? "Dolphin & da Trident"?)
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    Hispania, Carteia
    AE Semis, Struck after 44 BC
    Obverse: CARTEIA, Turreted head of city goddess right.
    Reverse: DD, Neptune standing left, right leg raised resting on stones, holding dolphin and trident.
    References: ACIP 2615; RPC I 122
    Size: 21mm, 8.74g
    Ex: Timeline Auctions, February 2019 Auction (3/2/19), Lot #3591


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    Irippo, Hispania
    AE24 Semis, Time of Augustus, 27 BC – 14 AD
    Obverse: Bare male head (Augustus?) right, [IRIPPO] before, all within wreath.
    Reverse: Female seated left holding pine cone and cornucopia, all within wreath.
    References: RPC 55
    Size: 24mm, ---g
     
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  21. Bardolph

    Bardolph Member

    Not mine, unfortunately, it belongs to a friend who asked for help in identifying it.

    A bronze As, weighing 17.1 gms, Kelse mint (an Iberian settlement about 30 kms south of Zaragoza, on the Ebro River) dating approx 120 to 50 BC.
    Ob, head of a young male facing right between three dolphins.
    Rev, a horse galloping right with a rider trailing a palm branch behind him. Underneath a line with Kesel above in Iberian script.
     

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