Picked up a Rat

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have seen this type posted over the years on here & now I finally own one.

    Picked this up for only opening bid so it made my day since I don't get Roman Republics too often.

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    Ti. Quinctius. (112 - 111 B.C.)
    AR Denarius
    O: Laureate bust of Hercules left, seen from behind, with club over shoulder.
    R: Two horses galloping left, with a desultor riding the nearest one; •/H above, rat below, •D•S•S on tablet in exergue.
    Rome Mint
    3.68g
    20mm
    Crawford 297/1b; Sydenham 563; Quinctia 6
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good on ya @Mat. That's a handsome example.

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  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    ... A good opportunity for someone to post a cat if they have one.
     
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  5. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Very cool new coin @Mat. I don't think I've seen one where the rat is scurrying away from the sewer!
    My rat, like @Bings, is heading down the cloacae...
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  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here's a wild cat (panther) standing left, during the time of Antiochus VI. SNGIs 1784.

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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I like that @Mat 's rat is running from the horses, but @Bing and @Ryro's are running towards them defending his pile of refuse. I imagine that the former is a country rat and the latter are from the mean streets of Rome. Not afraid of a few horses.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    LOL
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    seth77 Well-Known Member

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  12. oldfinecollector

    oldfinecollector Well-Known Member

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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Neato. I was unfamiliar with the type.
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I had not studied RR enough to have noticed that these come in rat left and rat right varieties. Mine is like mat's. I was aware (from Banti) that there are many variations of the letter in reverse field and the placement of the dot but Banti shows far fewer than full set. Does Crawford comment on this? Is there special meaning to the way the rat separates the TI and Q of the moneyer's name?
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  15. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Macedonian rat:

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  16. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Crawford subdivides the issue based on the rat direction. 297/1a is rat left, 1b is rat right. 1b is a bit more scarce, though both varieties are common enough.

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  17. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Considering the size of those rats, you'd need an undead cat to sort them out.

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  18. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

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    My rat goes to the right.
    18 mm. 3.95 grams.
    Sear I 174. Crawford 297/1b (297/1a is rat to the left)
    "The desultor on the reverse perhaps portray a statue, if the tablet with the incuse legend D S S is intended to recall a statue-base. The formula "De Senatus Sententia" is a common one in building inscriptions" (Says Crawford on page 312)
     
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  19. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Yup
     
  20. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice one @Mat This is a type I've wanted. Closest I have is my dog RR denarius 486191_466763656693884_516523879_n.jpg
     
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