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<p>[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 2663826, member: 25547"]True, but not as much as claimed. Hence it's an exaggeration. At 1:1, you will have virtually the same working distance with either Nikkor as with a 75mm enlarging lens. Ray claimed otherwise.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'll ask you the same thing. Please post a shot of your setup and explain how it <u>severely </u>limits things. Ray refused to do so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I've done it in the real world with modern arca-swiss based gear, so now we're both guilty of overgeneralizations. Quantify, please, so I can compute what effect if any it would have on depth of field or angle.</p><p><br /></p><p>And once again, I'll point out that when used on a copystand, a bellows adds rigidity challenges rather than solves them. Ray ignored this as well.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I understand that advantage in theory, and if anything I said implied that Nikon was better than Canon for this I apologize. Nikon/Canon "debates" have never interested me; again, it's tools for artisans. The original poster asked about Nikon and I've been a Nikon user long options such as electronic shutters were available. So I spoke to what's available from that brand. What I'm not sure (and what Ray didn't prove) was how much was due to mirror slap (not an issue with a D800 in live view) and how much to the shutter.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, because it's not just about the adjusting screw. Since I don't dedicate my camera to coin shots I don't leave my camera mounted on a tripod or copy stand full time there's less setup time. Once I've added the extension tube, say a 20mm tube, I can focus between 0.2x and 1.25x by adjusting the height of the camera on the stand, so I don't need to subtract and I still retain the ability to tweak focus on the lens or (*gasp*) use live view autofocus. Still once you move beyond 1:1 bellows become more valuable, which is why I own one. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do notice the aspect ratio on your second shot is off, which means that either something went horribly wrong in post or the coin wasn't aligned with the focal plane. In effect, you just demonstrated the problem you claim would happen with sag to a much larger degree. Tell me -- how much did it impact DOF? I didn't think so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm glad it works for you since you are willing to dedicate an SLR to the task. If you read my original response, I outlined why I felt (and feel) that for most people starting out using a macro lens is a better and easier alternative. You may have noticed that both Nikon and Canon gave up selling bellows long ago, and Nikon currently only sells one enlarging lens and that's through industrial channels. It's worth musing on why.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 2663826, member: 25547"]True, but not as much as claimed. Hence it's an exaggeration. At 1:1, you will have virtually the same working distance with either Nikkor as with a 75mm enlarging lens. Ray claimed otherwise. I'll ask you the same thing. Please post a shot of your setup and explain how it [U]severely [/U]limits things. Ray refused to do so. I've done it in the real world with modern arca-swiss based gear, so now we're both guilty of overgeneralizations. Quantify, please, so I can compute what effect if any it would have on depth of field or angle. And once again, I'll point out that when used on a copystand, a bellows adds rigidity challenges rather than solves them. Ray ignored this as well. I understand that advantage in theory, and if anything I said implied that Nikon was better than Canon for this I apologize. Nikon/Canon "debates" have never interested me; again, it's tools for artisans. The original poster asked about Nikon and I've been a Nikon user long options such as electronic shutters were available. So I spoke to what's available from that brand. What I'm not sure (and what Ray didn't prove) was how much was due to mirror slap (not an issue with a D800 in live view) and how much to the shutter. Yes, because it's not just about the adjusting screw. Since I don't dedicate my camera to coin shots I don't leave my camera mounted on a tripod or copy stand full time there's less setup time. Once I've added the extension tube, say a 20mm tube, I can focus between 0.2x and 1.25x by adjusting the height of the camera on the stand, so I don't need to subtract and I still retain the ability to tweak focus on the lens or (*gasp*) use live view autofocus. Still once you move beyond 1:1 bellows become more valuable, which is why I own one. I do notice the aspect ratio on your second shot is off, which means that either something went horribly wrong in post or the coin wasn't aligned with the focal plane. In effect, you just demonstrated the problem you claim would happen with sag to a much larger degree. Tell me -- how much did it impact DOF? I didn't think so. I'm glad it works for you since you are willing to dedicate an SLR to the task. If you read my original response, I outlined why I felt (and feel) that for most people starting out using a macro lens is a better and easier alternative. You may have noticed that both Nikon and Canon gave up selling bellows long ago, and Nikon currently only sells one enlarging lens and that's through industrial channels. It's worth musing on why.[/QUOTE]
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