Phish Coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Nicholas Molinari, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Any Phish heads at Fenway tonight?

    Post your coins coins featuring phish:

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    A hekte from Mysia.
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Looks like fun, Nick!

    A coin phish that appears in your book:

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    SICILY, Selinos
    Circa 410 BCE
    AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h
    Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above
    Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right
    Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (this coin); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Good VF, dark iridescent tone, some porosity. Rare.
    ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;
    ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;
    ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript


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    ARKADIA, Psophis
    450-30 BCE

    AR obol, 10 mm, 0.69 gm
    Obv: forepart of Kerynitian hind right
    Rev: fish right, O above, archaic psi below, all within circle incuse
    Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 1680 (same dies). Rare.
    ex Frank James Collection
    ex CNG
    ex BCD Collection
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I would have said fish left with the psi above and the o below. It also makes the fish curve more natural to my eye.
     
  5. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    That’s the nicest of the type I’ve seen.

    Every year I say I’m too old for this and every year it is true, yet I still go.

    Another phish from Mysia, Miletopolis.
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    Miletopolis, Mysia, Civic coinage, 4th century BC. AE11. Obv: Laureate head of Apollo right; below, tunny right. Rev: MYLH clockwise, Bull standing left. SNG France 1301 corr (Tunny not described
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I don't get the reference (I take it nothing to do with hockey? :shy::D), but here you go!

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    Thurium , in Lucania (443-400 BC), diobol
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm. I think you and I had a private discussion about this four or five years ago. I did put considerable thought into the rotation back then and thought I was correct based on fish anatomy, even though the engraver didn't show all of the fins a fish would normally have or else they were worn. I found some fish with similar shaped heads as the orientation I used.

    Archives were of limited use because most of these coins are very worn or otherwise indistinct and the engravers weren't as concerned as we are about anatomic correctness :D. Some have the fish swimming right with o above, some have fish left with o above. Others (the majority) have the psi above. Some have the o and psi in the same field. CNG and other auction houses have sometime oriented the o above and sometimes below.

    Looking through archives again I see a double die match to mine and the cataloger decided the fish was swimming left. The coin is slightly higher grade and what I thought was a contour of the fish's head might instead be pectoral fins, which would make you correct :).

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=141749

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  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    It looks like a catfish with the face "whiskers" hanging down, facing left.
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    THRACE, PANTIKAPAION
    AE21
    OBVERSE: Head of Pan left
    REVERSE: Roaring lion's head left; fish below
    Struck at Pantikapaion 400-300BC
    5.3g, 21mm
    SNG BMC Black Sea 883
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    CHINA PHISH MONEY

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    China Zhou Dynasty 1046-256 BCE AE Fish Money 67mm 9.5g AB Coole Enc Chinese Coins 6920ff
    EX: @Ken Dorney as recommended by @ancientcoinguru
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Aaand... This. Guy...
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    One of my favorite coins... also featured in his book...
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    Campania
    AE
    Apollo-Achelous
    275-250BCE
    SNG ANS 474
    @Nicholas Molinari 15-June-2016 "Your ... coin is a plate coin in Potamikon, number 343 in our catalog so Sambon 663; Taliercio IIIa.16; MSP I, 343, featuring Acheloios Sebethos as a man-faced bull. Taliercio cited three examples of this type, so yours is the fourth known of that particular variety."
    :)
     
  13. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    39ABC536-6B57-455B-942D-7FB00A21154E.jpeg What a coincidence! Only yesterday I made some pics on an exhibition of Fish in Art. There was this Escher woodcut.
     
  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

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    This is a late 16th cent. Flemish (?) painting of a merchant selling fish. The money in his palm is very much detailed, but I couldn’t recognize the coin types.
     
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