Philly coin shop discovers possible 1922 high relief matte proof peace dollar, thoughts?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by DMPL_dingo, Mar 6, 2021.

  1. DMPL_dingo

    DMPL_dingo Well-Known Member

    Diagnostics do look good on this one - but without authentication, definite pass. Some other explanation is still more likely than discovery of the (11th I believe?) in existence.

    By the same token, it could be taking longer because PCGS is probably scrutinizing the sh*t out of it before any authentication announcement. Who knows - the guy hasn’t provided an update it’s been 33 days. Living in Philly, all I know is I wish I had stumbled upon it :headphone:
     
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  3. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Using the lordmarcovan photo for comparison, most of these check out from what I can see thus far in the example photo. I believe the coin is genuine in every aspect...not a fake, not altered, etc. As to whether it's what they claim remains a ?
     
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  4. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    The break at the corner of E on the ray that goes through O bothers me, just something I noticed. How would somebody counterfeit one of these with the correct markers without having a real one?
     
  5. John Burgess

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  6. DMPL_dingo

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  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    This just goes to show you that you CAN'T spend only 30 seconds (or less) on a coin.

    This baby is requiring hours or days by any TPG, I bet.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is not a high relief ‘22, as it has only 6 rays between the rock and tail feathers. Also has 11 rays from the back, not 12. Just an ordinary 1922, strong strike. That automatically disqualifies it.
     
  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Might want to check with your accounting department. Looking at the coin in the OP.
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You might want to check the coin altogether. It is faked.
     
  12. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht / Longacre Enthusiast

    Massive news. It’s real.

    “UPDATE: NGC interviewed my boss. Its a discovery coin. It will be the first High Relief Prooflike Business strike. (Something to that nature) The coin will straight grade but havent told us the grade. Id assume there will be an article in the future. Ill update again once I know more. Sorry for the wait.”

    https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/comm...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
     
  13. DMPL_dingo

    DMPL_dingo Well-Known Member

    holllyyyyy shit lol. thanks for linking the update comment.
     
  14. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    As expected! Congrats! Not sure what "prooflike" would mean for this coin. They didn't have reflective fields to start with. That doesn't really matter, though. There are a couple other HR business strikes known for this one, and this will join them in the Big Bucks club.
     
  15. Millard

    Millard Coindog

    WOW! What a great thread. Very educational
     
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  16. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Cool. I revisited my two 1921 dollars that I thought I remembered looking very similar, and indeed they do...they're just a tad better in terms of conditions but with the same antique sort of surfaces/appearances. If the (new) owner wants a 1921 to match and compliment his now-rare '22 extraordinaire...send them my way...!
     
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  17. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Wow, just goes to show you can never tell.

    What is Redditt doing as a source of coin information ? Should we be scanning there ? Or just looking for the next Gamestop ? :D
     
  18. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    All of the diagnostics involving rays fail the test.

    Someone should put up a pic of a real one next to the "found" one.

    As of now, for my money, it's a resounding NO !

    EDIT : I do believe I was looking at Rob's coin when I was counting the rays.
    After looking at the correct coin, I do believe I shall change that resounding NO to a very meek and embarrassed yes.

    My apologies to the house.
     
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  19. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht / Longacre Enthusiast

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