Philly coin shop discovers possible 1922 high relief matte proof peace dollar, thoughts?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by DMPL_dingo, Mar 6, 2021.

  1. DMPL_dingo

    DMPL_dingo Well-Known Member

    Here's the reddit thread.

    Discovered sifting through culls. The pictures are low resolution, but the diagnostics look promising and it's been checked out by other LCS guys in the area. Wondering if you can guys have thoughts. See the images below:

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am a skeptic when it comes to these finds. It would be neat to see them authenticate it as real, that sure gives many of us cherry pickers good vibes. The coin in question looks like it has been altered to me, But hey those are some crappy pics to be trying to authenticate from.
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  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Florida girls have to love walking there sharks.

    It looks like a normal 1922 peace dollar to me but sometimes the impossible is possible.
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Reminds me of a coin I sold to @lordmarcovan . . . a very nice coin which looked the part, but wasn't.
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Yikes! I don't remember! Did I buy a Peace dollar from you?

    Getting senile... :confused:

    Edit: no... wait! Was it this one? :)

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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Please take it out of the holder and take new pictures.
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    never mind, I saw that was the posted picture
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    As to the coin in the OP, I dunno, but that reverse sure "pops", doesn't it? I love the look of the reverse. Has that wholesome look for a circ. The obverse is a tad scrubby for my taste, but still a neat coin, if it is what they think it is. (I wouldn't know doodley-squat about the diagnostics, myself.)
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  11. norantyki

    norantyki CoinMuncher

    I am not an expert on this type, but it looks to me like an improper cleaning... If it is a proof, it has had a remarkably hard life for what would have been a 'special' coin even in it's day...
  12. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    The ray that extends over the N in ONE makes me cautiously optimistic, but I suppose that our friends in China could probably fake that. Whatever it is, I don’t think it’s a normal 1922 peace dollar (it’s either a fake or something special).
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  13. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Did they figure out what the coin is ?
  14. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    He's had the redit on it for over a month now. My guess, clout chasing with a story at this point.

    I'll save my judgement but I'd think if it was legit the grading company would have got it by now and announced the major find of the century.
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  15. DMPL_dingo

    DMPL_dingo Well-Known Member

    Yeah nothing so far. I DMed the guy but he didn’t respond yet. I’m not going to make any assumptions yet - if it’s not legit I’m interested in what it comes back as though.
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    To me, it looks like a well-struck ordinary Peace Dollar. It was early in die life, so a really strong strike is entirely possible. I don’t see it as high relief—it looks nothing like the 1921, to my eye. An impaired proof is far more unlikely than a high relief 1922. I think it is a circulation strike.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021 at 10:45 AM
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @lordmarcovan Why did you sell that Peace Dollar that you bought from @ToughCOINS to a Philadelphia Coin Dealer? Lol
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  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The OP coin looks like one of the high relief 1922s. It is not an ordinary 1922 Peace dollar. Send it for authentication.
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  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The neck line seems to pierce through the nine? I'll hold my opinion for now and wait for our more experienced Ct'ers to offer theirs. Good luck
  20. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Diagnostics for the 1922 high relief coins include:
    - Fatter lettering of IGWT with the top of the O level and G high.
    - More rotund 9 and curvier bases of the 2s
    - Different hair detail
    - Different olive branch configuration
    - Three rays below ONE on the reverse excluding the one through the N
    - Long ray through the N of ONE
    - 12 rays from the eagle's back rather than 11
    - 8 rays between the rock and tailfeathers rather than 6
  21. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I guess after really looking at things, this one looks good at face value, but the R in TRUST really bothers me. it's like a P with a extra long leg added. the neck base going through the 9 further than it should bothers me, the date being that close to the rim..... I just don't know here.... If I were a buyer for something like this, I'd have to pass I think, not that I'm a buyer. LOL
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