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<p>[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 24461258, member: 110226"]Sure. Here's a photo with the area that I am referring to outlined in blue, to the lower left of the shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>These hammer struck coins are very often a challenge, given the very crude nature of these coins. Add to that emersion in salt water, with resulting corrosion, and the task becomes even tougher, but that is the appeal that these coins have for me, in large part.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is a distinct tail that is either a C or the lower part of a Q. Its placement is quite low. If you look at the two coins that I posted the placement of the Q is higher. However, since these initials were punched into the dies in a less than ideal setting, it is possible that the assayer initial for this coin happened to be punched lower than usual.</p><p><br /></p><p>The OP coin has some corrosion, which makes the placement of the P (for Potosi) at the top difficult to determine. Sometimes there's a dot between the P and the Q, but again it is hard to see if this is the case with the OP coin. The tail that I refer to seems to hook far to the left and up, not connecting to the lower part of what would be a Q. That's what leads me to think that the OP coin might be assayer C, but I cannot say conclusively. The tail is quite thick, which would not be expected with a C, where the line would be thinner. Also, the coin has a strong die shift (double strike) on the shield side, which caused some shifting and blurring of detail. An expert, such as Daniel Sedwick might be able to make a better determination.</p><p><br /></p><p>Augustin de la Quadra, the assayer, initially used C, but for a very limited time, before switching to Q for the remainder of his output. Varieties of his coins show C alone (rare), Q over C (rare), C within Q (rare), and of course Q alone (scarce). Sometimes the initial looks as if it was a C modified into a Q. There are different sizes as well. Again, looking at the coins that I posted there is a large Q (with an equally large M over it) and a very small Q, which might have been a small C initially, changed to a Q, or, just to make life interesting, it could be a C over a Q, but I think that is unlikely.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1548640[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 24461258, member: 110226"]Sure. Here's a photo with the area that I am referring to outlined in blue, to the lower left of the shield. These hammer struck coins are very often a challenge, given the very crude nature of these coins. Add to that emersion in salt water, with resulting corrosion, and the task becomes even tougher, but that is the appeal that these coins have for me, in large part. There is a distinct tail that is either a C or the lower part of a Q. Its placement is quite low. If you look at the two coins that I posted the placement of the Q is higher. However, since these initials were punched into the dies in a less than ideal setting, it is possible that the assayer initial for this coin happened to be punched lower than usual. The OP coin has some corrosion, which makes the placement of the P (for Potosi) at the top difficult to determine. Sometimes there's a dot between the P and the Q, but again it is hard to see if this is the case with the OP coin. The tail that I refer to seems to hook far to the left and up, not connecting to the lower part of what would be a Q. That's what leads me to think that the OP coin might be assayer C, but I cannot say conclusively. The tail is quite thick, which would not be expected with a C, where the line would be thinner. Also, the coin has a strong die shift (double strike) on the shield side, which caused some shifting and blurring of detail. An expert, such as Daniel Sedwick might be able to make a better determination. Augustin de la Quadra, the assayer, initially used C, but for a very limited time, before switching to Q for the remainder of his output. Varieties of his coins show C alone (rare), Q over C (rare), C within Q (rare), and of course Q alone (scarce). Sometimes the initial looks as if it was a C modified into a Q. There are different sizes as well. Again, looking at the coins that I posted there is a large Q (with an equally large M over it) and a very small Q, which might have been a small C initially, changed to a Q, or, just to make life interesting, it could be a C over a Q, but I think that is unlikely. [ATTACH=full]1548640[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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