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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 7771330, member: 91461"]Philip II was the first, and only, person to unify all of Greece. And he did it with innovation on the battlefield and brilliance in negotiations.</p><p>He started with a broke, recently defeated in battle (his older brother was killed in the battle, hence him becoming kingy) upside down city state that most Greeks didn't even call Greek... until Phil came along that is.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332710[/ATTACH]</p><p>(From Vergina find of what most agree is the final resting place of Philip II of Macedon; two small heads of what, again, most believe to be Philip II, left, and son Alexander III, right)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332711[/ATTACH]</p><p>(Philips larnax, from same tomb in Vergina)</p><p><br /></p><p>I wish I had time to do another proper right up on the man, as this guy IS just as great as Alexander. But am still settling in after the big move.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am thrilled to share my latest tetradrachm and only Philip II... but, much like ancient history it comes with questions that may or may not be answerable.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332713[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>First, it's from Savoca Blue. So, next to no description. I remember reading recently that most Philip II's that are right facing are after his death. However, all the types that I could find in AC search with the thunderbolt and similar look state lifetime tet. I hope someone "in the know" might chime in.</p><p>As well, I reached out to Savoca just to make sure it wasn't a fouree. As you can see it has what looks like a hole and I was concerned that was exposed bronze. Their response, "I just asked our numismatist, the tetradrachm is not fourrée. The ''hole'' on the reverse, which is probably a banker’s mark or a die break, doesn’t expose any bronze surface."</p><p>Still, I nervously waited to receive the coin so I could look at the coin under a microscope. Sure looks like silver to me. Just a funky die break (I don't think it's a banker's mark/test cut).</p><p>And lastly, who is the youth on the horseback? The rider of Philip's Olympic winning horse, Apollo, young Alexander on Bucephalus, Ryro taking his morning ride to the bar????</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332718[/ATTACH]</p><p>(Image of me BEFORE the bar)</p><p><br /></p><p>Anywho, without further ado, the man with the master plan, silver and in my hand, large and in charge (oh wait, there was further ado) Philip II!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332712[/ATTACH]</p><p>Philip II AR Tetradrachm. Pella, 342-336 BC. Lifetime issue. Laureate head of Zeus right / Youth on horseback right, holding palm and reins; thunderbolt below, [N in exergue]. Le Rider 222-306. 14.22g, 24mm, 7h. VF. Purchased from Savoca July 2021</p><p><br /></p><p>Before this all of my Philip IIs were in bronze:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332719[/ATTACH]</p><p>Philip II</p><p>359-336 B.C. AE unit (18.7 mm, 6.29 g, 4 h). Uncertain Macedonian mint. Head of Apollo left, wearing tainia / ΦIΛIΠΠOY, youth on horseback riding left; uncertain symbol below (Helios head?). SNG Alpha Bank 371-3 (alternatively described as lion's head, a crab, thunderbolt or unknown symbol, depending on the reference); SNG ANS 872-74. VF</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332720[/ATTACH]</p><p>Philip II</p><p>Rider Bronze 359-336 BC. Mint in Macedonia. Obv: head of Apollo right, hair bound in a taenia. Rev: FILIPPOY legend above youthful rider on horseback prancing right; trident head and AR monogram beneath the horse. SNG ANS 908. 6.48 grams. (").</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1332721[/ATTACH]</p><p>Philip II.</p><p>KINGS OF MACEDON. Unit (Bronze, 18 mm, 5.57 g, 12 h), uncertain mint in Macedon. Diademed head of Apollo to right. Rev. ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ Youth on horseback to right; below, NI. SNG Copenhagen 582ff var. (different symbol). SNG München 210. Beautiful light green patina.</p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]dO1rMeYnOmM[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>I would enjoy and appreciate seeing any and all of your Philip II coins, coins of Macedon, thoughts ideas and or anything that topples empires![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 7771330, member: 91461"]Philip II was the first, and only, person to unify all of Greece. And he did it with innovation on the battlefield and brilliance in negotiations. He started with a broke, recently defeated in battle (his older brother was killed in the battle, hence him becoming kingy) upside down city state that most Greeks didn't even call Greek... until Phil came along that is. [ATTACH=full]1332710[/ATTACH] (From Vergina find of what most agree is the final resting place of Philip II of Macedon; two small heads of what, again, most believe to be Philip II, left, and son Alexander III, right) [ATTACH=full]1332711[/ATTACH] (Philips larnax, from same tomb in Vergina) I wish I had time to do another proper right up on the man, as this guy IS just as great as Alexander. But am still settling in after the big move. I am thrilled to share my latest tetradrachm and only Philip II... but, much like ancient history it comes with questions that may or may not be answerable. [ATTACH=full]1332713[/ATTACH] First, it's from Savoca Blue. So, next to no description. I remember reading recently that most Philip II's that are right facing are after his death. However, all the types that I could find in AC search with the thunderbolt and similar look state lifetime tet. I hope someone "in the know" might chime in. As well, I reached out to Savoca just to make sure it wasn't a fouree. As you can see it has what looks like a hole and I was concerned that was exposed bronze. Their response, "I just asked our numismatist, the tetradrachm is not fourrée. The ''hole'' on the reverse, which is probably a banker’s mark or a die break, doesn’t expose any bronze surface." Still, I nervously waited to receive the coin so I could look at the coin under a microscope. Sure looks like silver to me. Just a funky die break (I don't think it's a banker's mark/test cut). And lastly, who is the youth on the horseback? The rider of Philip's Olympic winning horse, Apollo, young Alexander on Bucephalus, Ryro taking his morning ride to the bar???? [ATTACH=full]1332718[/ATTACH] (Image of me BEFORE the bar) Anywho, without further ado, the man with the master plan, silver and in my hand, large and in charge (oh wait, there was further ado) Philip II! [ATTACH=full]1332712[/ATTACH] Philip II AR Tetradrachm. Pella, 342-336 BC. Lifetime issue. Laureate head of Zeus right / Youth on horseback right, holding palm and reins; thunderbolt below, [N in exergue]. Le Rider 222-306. 14.22g, 24mm, 7h. VF. Purchased from Savoca July 2021 Before this all of my Philip IIs were in bronze: [ATTACH=full]1332719[/ATTACH] Philip II 359-336 B.C. AE unit (18.7 mm, 6.29 g, 4 h). Uncertain Macedonian mint. Head of Apollo left, wearing tainia / ΦIΛIΠΠOY, youth on horseback riding left; uncertain symbol below (Helios head?). SNG Alpha Bank 371-3 (alternatively described as lion's head, a crab, thunderbolt or unknown symbol, depending on the reference); SNG ANS 872-74. VF [ATTACH=full]1332720[/ATTACH] Philip II Rider Bronze 359-336 BC. Mint in Macedonia. Obv: head of Apollo right, hair bound in a taenia. Rev: FILIPPOY legend above youthful rider on horseback prancing right; trident head and AR monogram beneath the horse. SNG ANS 908. 6.48 grams. ("). [ATTACH=full]1332721[/ATTACH] Philip II. KINGS OF MACEDON. Unit (Bronze, 18 mm, 5.57 g, 12 h), uncertain mint in Macedon. Diademed head of Apollo to right. Rev. ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ Youth on horseback to right; below, NI. SNG Copenhagen 582ff var. (different symbol). SNG München 210. Beautiful light green patina. [MEDIA=youtube]dO1rMeYnOmM[/MEDIA] I would enjoy and appreciate seeing any and all of your Philip II coins, coins of Macedon, thoughts ideas and or anything that topples empires![/QUOTE]
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