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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3101846, member: 56859"]I agree with the popular opinion here-- that portrait looks like an older person and I don't find the CNG argument persuasive. We've all seen provincials which look nothing like the Roman portraits though, so it's hard to draw conclusions on portrait alone. Certainly the CNG catalogers know more than me so there are likely subtle points I'm not understanding.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a beardless provincial of Philip I (unquestionably Philip I). He looks quite youthful.</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/philipi-tet-alexandriaholdingserapis-rt-jpg.705075/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Philip I</b></p><p>Regnal year 4, CE 246/7</p><p>Billon tetradrachm; 23mm, 13.4g</p><p>Obv: A K M IOV ΦIΛIΠΠOC ЄYC; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind.</p><p>Rev: Alexandria standing facing, towered head left, holding bust of Serapis in right hand, vertical scepter in left; L Δ (date) across field.</p><p>Ref: Emmett 3469.4; Dattari 4856 and 4857; Förschner (Frankfurt Museum) 973-975; Curtis 1320; Savio (Museum Osnabrück) 1895-1896; Dattari-Savio plate 257, coins 4856, 4857, and 10518</p><p><i>ex Eng Collection</i></p><p><i>ex Zach Beasley</i></p><p><i>ex Keith Emmett Collection</i></p><p><i>ex Decus 1986</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Philip II</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/philipii-hermanubis-tet-e3592-4c-r1-rt_edited-1-jpg.508256/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Philip II as Caesar</b></p><p>Regnal year 4 of Philip I, CE 246/7</p><p>billion tetradrachm, 22 mm, 12.8 gm</p><p>Obv: MIOVΦIΛIΠΠOCKCEB; cuirassed bust right, bare head</p><p>Rev: Hermanubis standing facing, head right, winged caduceus in right arm and palm branch in left hand; jackal (looking more like Disney's Pluto) left at feet; L-Δ</p><p>Ref: Emmett 3592.4(Caesar); Milne 3676; Dattari-Savio pl. 264, 5079</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Another Philip I from a different region:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/thrace-deultum-philipi-beehive-jpg.411240/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>THRACE, Deultum. Philip I "The Arab"</b></p><p>CE 244-249</p><p>AE16, 3.05 gm</p><p>Obv: PHILIPPVS IMP M I; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield</p><p>Rev: C-F P-D in two lines across fields, beehive on a base</p><p>Ref: Varbanov 3041 corr. (rev. description; Varbanov describes the beehive as on a temple, similar to the known type of Philip II, but on this coin it appears to be a simple base or stand)</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-honey-of-a-coin-philip-i-provincial-with-beehive.263409/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-honey-of-a-coin-philip-i-provincial-with-beehive.263409/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-honey-of-a-coin-philip-i-provincial-with-beehive.263409/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3101846, member: 56859"]I agree with the popular opinion here-- that portrait looks like an older person and I don't find the CNG argument persuasive. We've all seen provincials which look nothing like the Roman portraits though, so it's hard to draw conclusions on portrait alone. Certainly the CNG catalogers know more than me so there are likely subtle points I'm not understanding. Here's a beardless provincial of Philip I (unquestionably Philip I). He looks quite youthful. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/philipi-tet-alexandriaholdingserapis-rt-jpg.705075/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Philip I[/B] Regnal year 4, CE 246/7 Billon tetradrachm; 23mm, 13.4g Obv: A K M IOV ΦIΛIΠΠOC ЄYC; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind. Rev: Alexandria standing facing, towered head left, holding bust of Serapis in right hand, vertical scepter in left; L Δ (date) across field. Ref: Emmett 3469.4; Dattari 4856 and 4857; Förschner (Frankfurt Museum) 973-975; Curtis 1320; Savio (Museum Osnabrück) 1895-1896; Dattari-Savio plate 257, coins 4856, 4857, and 10518 [I]ex Eng Collection ex Zach Beasley ex Keith Emmett Collection ex Decus 1986[/I] Philip II [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/philipii-hermanubis-tet-e3592-4c-r1-rt_edited-1-jpg.508256/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Philip II as Caesar[/B] Regnal year 4 of Philip I, CE 246/7 billion tetradrachm, 22 mm, 12.8 gm Obv: MIOVΦIΛIΠΠOCKCEB; cuirassed bust right, bare head Rev: Hermanubis standing facing, head right, winged caduceus in right arm and palm branch in left hand; jackal (looking more like Disney's Pluto) left at feet; L-Δ Ref: Emmett 3592.4(Caesar); Milne 3676; Dattari-Savio pl. 264, 5079 Another Philip I from a different region: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/thrace-deultum-philipi-beehive-jpg.411240/[/IMG] [B]THRACE, Deultum. Philip I "The Arab"[/B] CE 244-249 AE16, 3.05 gm Obv: PHILIPPVS IMP M I; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield Rev: C-F P-D in two lines across fields, beehive on a base Ref: Varbanov 3041 corr. (rev. description; Varbanov describes the beehive as on a temple, similar to the known type of Philip II, but on this coin it appears to be a simple base or stand) [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-honey-of-a-coin-philip-i-provincial-with-beehive.263409/[/url][/QUOTE]
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