Philip and Philip II antoninianus cleaned

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  1. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    This coin came in last week , didn't like the horn silver and the yellow stuff.

    1* To remove the yellow stuff I used vinegar/distilled water 50/50
    after 3 hours that was gone.

    2* and to remove the horn silver I used Sodium Thiosulphate 2 gram dissolved in 100 cc warm water. (stuff is available on eBay)

    P1130816 Philip II and Philip I (3).jpg
    statue Philip II (4).jpg

    Please show your cleaned silver Antoniniani / Denarii coins
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That turned out really well!
    I have so far, been afraid to try and clean any of my coins with the exception of the uncleaned ancients that I soaked in distilled water.
     
  4. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Not really what you asked for but here’s a coin I have with horn silver. I could try to remove it but I do not trust myself not to damage the coin somehow, plus this particular horn silver I do not mind. Its not covering any of the major devices, it’s not widespread, and I think it gives the coin character.

    Menander I, Indo-Greek Kingdom
    AR drachm
    Obv: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΣΩTHPOΣ MENANΔPOY, helmeted, draped bust right
    Rev: "Maharajasa tratarasa / menamdrasa" in Kharoshthi, Athena Alkidemos standing left seen from behind, holding shield on left arm, hurling thunderbolt in right hand, PA monogram to right
    Mint: (Unknown mint in Bactria)
    Date: 160-145 BC
    Ref: BMC 8

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  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice cleaning job. I have a phillip II ant with toning I've decided to leave it as it is (at least for now).
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Great job on the cleaning. I like your method - vinegar and thiosulfate seem to be a rather winning combination. I'm impressed at how shiny your result is - the silvers I've chemically treated tend to turn out a rather dull gray color.

    Here's my contribution - a Philip I ant that had a VERY thick layer of copper oxide, iron oxide, horn silver, and various mineral encrustations.

    Before:
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    After an overnight soak in Sodium Hydroxide:
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    After an overnight soak in Sodium Thiosulfate:
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  7. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Any idea if this method can be done safely with bronze coins?
     
  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    absolutely! The results may vary, but generally speaking you can restore bronze coins with a similar hydroxide and thiosulfate method.

    Here's an awful Trajan sestertius that had layers of iron oxides, copper oxides, minerals, and other oxides.

    I used, in succession, Sodium Hydroxide, Vinegar, and Sodium Thiosulfate. Each treatment lasted approximately overnight.
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    This treatment revealed much of the legend, and even the S in the SC which was entirely not visible before the chemical dunks.
     
  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Here's a Caracalla denarius I cleaned using distilled water and manual work. I probably could've used the vinegar step on there, but didn't know about it back then.
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    Caracalla, Ruled 198-217 AD
    AR Denarius, Struck 212 AD
    Obverse: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, head of Caracalla, laureate, right.
    Reverse: P M TR P XV COS III P P, Serapis, wearing polos on head, standing left, raising right hand and holding transverse sceptre in left hand.
    References: RIC IV Caracalla 194


    And here's mine if the OP coin...
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  10. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Great job Justin on the Serapis.
    Here's my cleaned Serapis:

    P1170772 212 ADbest.jpg
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I had posted my Postumus Ant before, and it was VERY green. A few years ago, @YOC graciously PM'd me and offered to use his special sauce and clean the Great Gobs of Green Gook off my coin. It was not a high ticket spend for the coin, so it was a wonderful deal he offered.

    WOW... BIG change! YOC mentioned that mine even has SILVER on it, which you could NEVER had seen in the original Green state that I received it.

    Here is the Green Gook BEFORE pic:
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    And...

    Here is my AFTER pic that I just received:
    (Forgive my fast and rough photography, but the results are still dramatic!)

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    Postumus, 259-268 AD
    antoninianus, 20 mm, 3.2 gm, Cologne
    Obv: IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: PROVIDENTIA AVG, Providentia standing left holding globe and transverse scepter
    Ex: @TIF

    PLEASE NOTE, this is the ONLY coin in my entire collection that has ever been cleaned.

    I thought it was a RARE GREEN Ant... (Only ONE known...and I HAD it!)
     
  12. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Sharing my first cleaning experience with aceton:
    This dupondius had a dark, ugly surface.

    Rome, 120 - 121 AD, 26 x 27 mm, 12.499 g
    RIC II Part 3 (2nd edition) Hadrian 403

    Before:
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    After: 5 hours in a 100% acetone soak, soft brush and washing it with distilled water.

    It had some dark shoe polish, wax or something that came easily off

    Ob.: IMP CAESAR TRAIANVS HADRIANVS AVG PM(TR P) COS III Bust of Hadrian, radiate, right
    Rev.: AETERNITAS AVGVSTI Aeternitas, draped, standing, facing, head left, holding up heads of Sun in r. hand and Moon in left; S C
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    Even though it is in bad shape, I honestly think it looks much better now. Hope most of you agree :D
     
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