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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1570339, member: 41665"]<span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial">Pliny the Elder gives the Wheat Weight per modius (<i><font face="Arial">wholesale </font></i>dry measure, 8.62 litres) at equivalence to 21 lbs. avd or 6.78 kgs. Kessler & Temin (2005) cite average wholesale Wheat Prices in the same region, and <u>that leads me to definitively date Revelation 6:6 to AD 94 or AD 95</u>. I am also happy to report that I found nothing online that links both<i> the Grain Edict </i>of Provincial Governor Lucius Antistius Rusticus <b><font face="Arial">(AD 93: Price & Location)</font></b> to BoR 6:6 specifically. A CoinTalk FIRST? Maybe so.</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"></font></span><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial">For the Wheat Price @ 1 Denarius (16 Asses) we know the price had doubled. How? The Edict strongly suggests speculation on top of famine. Why? Domitian, on the return from a disastrous campaign against the Germans (AD92) "in order to increase the belief in his pretended victory, increased the pay of the army from 75 denarii to 100 denarii a month (3 to 4 aurei every four months)" ... 33% wage-inflation for legionaires. There's a great deal known about Domititian's mis-rule and presumed the more general association with the BoR:</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><i><font face="Arial">The Book of Revelation: Apocalypse & Empire </font></i>; Leonard L. Thompson</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><i><font face="Arial">The Emperor Domitian</font></i>, Brian W. Jones</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial">"In the ruins of Flaviopolis, in Phrygia, has been found a marble block having cylindrical wells marked with the names of different Greek measures. Of these the chœnix appears to have contained 1.5 liters. This seems to have been about the capacity of the Æginetan, Bœotian, and Pontic measures." The Roman modius was a dry measure of 8.73 litres.</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial">Converting wholesale volume-weight equivalent of the retail chœnix (2.55 lbs) the wholesale rate normally have been a cost of 1 Ass, but doubled to 2 Asses.<b><font face="Arial"> So the RETAIL price was 5x higher.</font></b> </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Arial">What’s unknown here is the <i>normal retail price </i>(and <i>normal markup</i>) off which that retail inflation occurred. Caveat: I can only presume the modius and chœnix were locally <u>different</u> and understood as such, and not subject to the BoR author's biased inflation, a possibility you've noted Chris.</font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1570339, member: 41665"][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Arial]Pliny the Elder gives the Wheat Weight per modius ([I][FONT=Arial]wholesale [/FONT][/I]dry measure, 8.62 litres) at equivalence to 21 lbs. avd or 6.78 kgs. Kessler & Temin (2005) cite average wholesale Wheat Prices in the same region, and [U]that leads me to definitively date Revelation 6:6 to AD 94 or AD 95[/U]. I am also happy to report that I found nothing online that links both[I] the Grain Edict [/I]of Provincial Governor Lucius Antistius Rusticus [B][FONT=Arial](AD 93: Price & Location)[/FONT][/B] to BoR 6:6 specifically. A CoinTalk FIRST? Maybe so. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Arial] For the Wheat Price @ 1 Denarius (16 Asses) we know the price had doubled. How? The Edict strongly suggests speculation on top of famine. Why? Domitian, on the return from a disastrous campaign against the Germans (AD92) "in order to increase the belief in his pretended victory, increased the pay of the army from 75 denarii to 100 denarii a month (3 to 4 aurei every four months)" ... 33% wage-inflation for legionaires. There's a great deal known about Domititian's mis-rule and presumed the more general association with the BoR: [I][FONT=Arial]The Book of Revelation: Apocalypse & Empire [/FONT][/I]; Leonard L. Thompson [I][FONT=Arial]The Emperor Domitian[/FONT][/I], Brian W. Jones "In the ruins of Flaviopolis, in Phrygia, has been found a marble block having cylindrical wells marked with the names of different Greek measures. Of these the chœnix appears to have contained 1.5 liters. This seems to have been about the capacity of the Æginetan, Bœotian, and Pontic measures." The Roman modius was a dry measure of 8.73 litres. Converting wholesale volume-weight equivalent of the retail chœnix (2.55 lbs) the wholesale rate normally have been a cost of 1 Ass, but doubled to 2 Asses.[B][FONT=Arial] So the RETAIL price was 5x higher.[/FONT][/B] What’s unknown here is the [I]normal retail price [/I](and [I]normal markup[/I]) off which that retail inflation occurred. Caveat: I can only presume the modius and chœnix were locally [U]different[/U] and understood as such, and not subject to the BoR author's biased inflation, a possibility you've noted Chris.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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