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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 7992594, member: 66"]The Monstrous Fuss is covered much better in Roger Burdette's Renaissance of American Coinage books, and frankly it is rather interesting, at least to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes he really didn't like Charles Barber as an engraver, Burdette doesn't like him either. On the other hand Barber didn't like anyone intruding in his engraving department either, and he DID understand the requirements for producing coins better most outside artists. It's one of the things that doomed the 1890 competition to redesign the dime, quarter, and half. A design competition with three judges, two of which believed that THEY were the only artist qualified to design a coin. (Barber and Saint-Gaudens)</p><p><br /></p><p>Breen's judgmental assault on the political groups such as the Society for the Suppression of Vice, probably comes from the knowledge of how they would have viewed and treated him. But the nonsense about them objecting to the SLQ is just that nonsense. The plans to make changes in the design began even as the first cons were being released and were underway long before the Society could have even seen the coins. There is NO contemporary evidence of any objection to the bare breast on the coin. (This is most likely one of the cases of Breen just making things up to support his opinion.) Also the change in adding the chain mail covering the breast came from McNeil not from the Mint. The Mint provided a list of changes they wanted with the order that no changes other than the ones listed were to be made. The covering of the breast was not on the list. More than likely it was McNeil's own idea. The quarter design contains a lot of symbolism in reference to the coming war in Europe, and he probably felt that if you are getting ready for war, you go in protected not half nude. So he added the chain mail corset.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 7992594, member: 66"]The Monstrous Fuss is covered much better in Roger Burdette's Renaissance of American Coinage books, and frankly it is rather interesting, at least to me. Yes he really didn't like Charles Barber as an engraver, Burdette doesn't like him either. On the other hand Barber didn't like anyone intruding in his engraving department either, and he DID understand the requirements for producing coins better most outside artists. It's one of the things that doomed the 1890 competition to redesign the dime, quarter, and half. A design competition with three judges, two of which believed that THEY were the only artist qualified to design a coin. (Barber and Saint-Gaudens) Breen's judgmental assault on the political groups such as the Society for the Suppression of Vice, probably comes from the knowledge of how they would have viewed and treated him. But the nonsense about them objecting to the SLQ is just that nonsense. The plans to make changes in the design began even as the first cons were being released and were underway long before the Society could have even seen the coins. There is NO contemporary evidence of any objection to the bare breast on the coin. (This is most likely one of the cases of Breen just making things up to support his opinion.) Also the change in adding the chain mail covering the breast came from McNeil not from the Mint. The Mint provided a list of changes they wanted with the order that no changes other than the ones listed were to be made. The covering of the breast was not on the list. More than likely it was McNeil's own idea. The quarter design contains a lot of symbolism in reference to the coming war in Europe, and he probably felt that if you are getting ready for war, you go in protected not half nude. So he added the chain mail corset.[/QUOTE]
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