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<p>[QUOTE="John Anthony, post: 2243896, member: 42773"]I read the CCF thread, but I was wondering if the coin was bronze or silver. Bronze can be imaged in such a way as to make it look silver, if the lighting is oblique enough.</p><p><br /></p><p>My general point is that there are some important distinctions to be made when assessing solid and fouree denarii, and bronze or "limes" denarii.</p><p><br /></p><p>An authentic fouree will have sharp, struck features, even if some of the plating has worn off over time. The coins were struck AFTER they were plated (either chemically or mechanically).</p><p><br /></p><p>Fouree cores, however are coins on which ALL the plating has worn off. A bronze fouree core will have soft features like a cast coin, because the bronze would have received a weaker imprint, being under the silver. Here's an example of a fouree core of a denarius of Publius Crepusius. If you didn't know this was a fouree core, you might think the coin was cast, on account of its softness...</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]442914[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A bronze, or "limes" denarius will have sharp, struck features because these coins were not plated. Bronze was simply substituted for silver, presumably because of precious metal shortages in various locations at various times.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a limes denarius of Julia Domna - a bit crusty, but notice how the details are quite crisp...</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]442915[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize the OP coin is merely a cast fake, but my point is that softness isn't always an indicator of forgery. Even when you have solid silver, softness can arise from late die states.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Anthony, post: 2243896, member: 42773"]I read the CCF thread, but I was wondering if the coin was bronze or silver. Bronze can be imaged in such a way as to make it look silver, if the lighting is oblique enough. My general point is that there are some important distinctions to be made when assessing solid and fouree denarii, and bronze or "limes" denarii. An authentic fouree will have sharp, struck features, even if some of the plating has worn off over time. The coins were struck AFTER they were plated (either chemically or mechanically). Fouree cores, however are coins on which ALL the plating has worn off. A bronze fouree core will have soft features like a cast coin, because the bronze would have received a weaker imprint, being under the silver. Here's an example of a fouree core of a denarius of Publius Crepusius. If you didn't know this was a fouree core, you might think the coin was cast, on account of its softness... [ATTACH=full]442914[/ATTACH] A bronze, or "limes" denarius will have sharp, struck features because these coins were not plated. Bronze was simply substituted for silver, presumably because of precious metal shortages in various locations at various times. Here is a limes denarius of Julia Domna - a bit crusty, but notice how the details are quite crisp... [ATTACH=full]442915[/ATTACH] I realize the OP coin is merely a cast fake, but my point is that softness isn't always an indicator of forgery. Even when you have solid silver, softness can arise from late die states.[/QUOTE]
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