Perth Mint caught doping their gold

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  1. justafarmer

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    From the article:
    "While the gold remained above broader industry standards, the report estimated up to 100 tonnes of gold sent to Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) potentially did not comply with Shanghai's strict purity standards for silver content."

    Anyone notice anything strange with that statement? Of course the gold didn't meet their silver purity standards! :)
     
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Its a poorly worded paragraph, but it means that the gold had too much alloy (silver and copper). The standards they are referring to are for the purity of the gold and how much silver should be present.
     
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  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    I see.

    Also, does this mean that recent purchases from the CCP mint are even more sub-par than we already knew they were? :rolleyes:
     
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  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    I guess I missed the part where China introduced strict standards for something other than harvesting organs from excuted dissidents.
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Those naughty Aussies..........I feel so sorry for the Chinese.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    As for strict standards? They ain't got none, especially regarding all the substandard stuff they try to pollute our hobby with.
     
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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I am sure glad I dont have any Perth mint GOLD, its puzzling why they would dope there GOLD and then revert back to a higher standard, why wouldn't just meet the standard in the first place, talk about a black eye :(
     
  11. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    If I understand, their products are OK, but the shipments of gold sent to China were intentionally of low quality. I assume this sub-standard gold was ultimately used for Chinese bullion.

    It is almost like the products the Chinese push on European and North American consumers :rolleyes:
     
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  12. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Sounds a little bit like someone on the receiving end is cutting the goods.
     
  13. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    It seems like Shanghai had a purity standard of 99.996. Perth gave them 99.992. Boo hoo. With the counterfeit everything China puts on the world markets, looks like they got beat at their own game. It's hard for me to shed a tear.
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Who’s to say they weren’t doping there
    GOLD in the states ? it would be very
    easy to sell less quality GOLD to the
    average Joe as it would be seldom checked, the management at Perth
    has allot to answer for.
     
  15. Mr Roots

    Mr Roots Underneath The Bridge

    So for every million dollars worth of gold they ripped them off like $5 dollars.
     
  16. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    99.995
    99.992
    Seriously though, I think the guy in the video said it saved them $600,000.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I didn't see the exact assays in the linked article, only that the product "remained above 99.99".

    Going from 99.996 to 99.992 would amount to a savings of about $40 per $1,000,000 of product. The 100 metric tons in play here amount to about US$5.9 billion at today's prices, meaning they substituted dopant for a bit less than a quarter million US$ in gold.

    That "cost-saving measure" may turn out to be very expensive indeed for Perth.
     
  18. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    The bullion now guy on YouTube had a pretty good description.
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    That seems like a substantial amount more then enough to take the wife out to
    dinner…LOL
     
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